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First time I saw the video I thought stupid teenagers high on something doing stupid teenage crap.

Even decent teenagers can absolutely knock the wind out of you with stupid decisions from time to time, this is why they call them "minors".

I was encouraged to read the stepfather of one of the teens turned them in.

But then I read these kids had previously filmed themselves torturing a groundhog...

...and even worse one of the moms sorta defends her kid....

Throw the book at 'em, but depending on their age they still get prosecuted as minors.


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They're going to cause us to be worse old men than we had to deal with when we were pups.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Good lord. People will watch someone physically assault another person without showing so much as a hint of outrage. Yet here is a goofy friggen kid kicking a deer that has likely been spined, and we are ready to hang the kid. That deer is tough as nails and probably didn't feel a damn thing. The optics here are bad, and the kids need a lesson on how to humanely dispatch a wounded animal, but in reality this is a nothing venison burger.



It's humanity that is missing.

Most kids are bloodthirsty. That's natural. But maturity, mercy, and ethics are all things that are learned.

We are better than what was portrayed in that video.

That is the lesson that should be learned.


Yes sir.
I think mercy and compassion are also natural traits, but need to be nurished and reenforced as a part of maturing.


As an aside, animal cruelity laws aint gonna do us, as hunters, any favors. Trump making it a felony is no bueno IMO.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Originally Posted by tburkepa
Paul Barnard if you think that what they did to that deer is ok, then you sir are a first class assclown. They had no intention of humanely putting down the deer. What they did was sick and twisted and was intentionally done. They also have video's of themselves smashing woodchucks heads off concrete bridges and laughing about that. This is a great video for the animal rights and non-hunting crowd to show for their fight.



What part of what you read led you to believe I think it's okay?


The part where you said the deer "is as tough as nails and probably didn't feel a damned thing". I believe you are wrong about that.

The kid wasn't goofy, he is sick. Kids that start out doing wicked things to animals often graduate doing the same to humans.


The truth is that I don't know whether it felt anything or not. I have watched some buck fights that saw them take way more of an impact than those piddly kicks completely unfazed. I go to the dog park regularly and see dogs beat the ever loving crap out of each other and come back for more. My lab has this thing where she likes to chest bump to the dogs. She'll hit other dogs nearly full speed with her chest and bowl them over. They are right back up playing instantaneously. That's part of why I said that I doubt the deer felt the pain. Animals are just tougher and more pain tolerant than humans. How often does a heart shot human do a 40 yard death dash?

I remember when I was growing up I used to tape firecrackers and bottle rockets to lizards and light them off underneath toads. I probably would have been jailed for doing what I did to the frogs and lizards if I did that as a kid today. Today I have a very soft spot for animals. I know that there is a well established path from animal abuse to human abuse, and given the history of these kids, that warrants an intervention in this case.

In the grand scheme of things, the kicks were simply not a big deal to me. What the kicks, when examined in light of the kid's other behavior, represent is somewhat troubling. They are somewhat troubling when coupled with what the kid's parents later said. I think there are some unhealthy family environmental factors of concern. I spined a deer in Kodiak many years ago. I shot at greater range than I should have at 400 yards. I sprinted to give it a coup de grace. I wonder if the idiot 15 year old version of me would have kicked it. I doubt it. But still I struggle to call for these dipschidts to be castrated for what they did.

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Originally Posted by broomd
Originally Posted by Quak
[bleep] need to be shot and so do their parents

I read that the stepfather turned them in to authorities.



Kid has a stepfather? Explains everything.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by broomd
Originally Posted by Quak
[bleep] need to be shot and so do their parents

I read that the stepfather turned them in to authorities.



Kid has a stepfather? Explains everything.



I understand your thinking.

But it stupid to assume.

I have a step father. I call him Dad.
He raised my handicapped brother, my sister, and myself.
And it shouldn't matter, but I know it does to the judgmental
stereotype liking 'Fire" members, my "Real Dad" was killed
by a truck tire while working. And, both men were married
to my Mom.


But heck,
I have a Stepfather.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdo...lFn6QDHsUp_ekWr0Vy6_nbd77jN4WtLs1ScbrBG8

WARNING: Hyperlinked video contains graphic content depicting animal abuse and graphic language.

The Pennsylvania Game Commission is investigating a “reprehensible” video of two boys abusing an injured deer, in an assault that reportedly occurred on the first day of deer rifle season for hunters in the state.

On Saturday, disturbing video footage hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face while a friend filmed. The male deer, which appeared to have already been shot, laid on the ground and pawed at the attacker, while the two boys could be heard snickering and taunting the animal, per Fox 43.

“Grab his horn and pull him away from that tree,” one of the young men could be heard instructing the other in the disturbing 30-second clip.

WOMAN, 104, BAGS BUCK DURING FIRST HUNT
Disturbing video footage recently hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face.

Disturbing video footage recently hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face. ([bleep])

“Something definitely needs done. This video was shared to me from a mutual friend on Snapchat,” Facebook user Gregg Rossman, who originally posted the footage, wrote online. Rossman also claimed that he was “not a part of this” and “shared simply to get the attention of authorities!”

In the days since, the violent video has since gone viral, receiving nearly 6,000 shares on Facebook. The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30, WKBN reports.

The following day, representatives for the Game Commission also spoke out on Facebook to confirm they would be investigating the “reprehensible” incident.

“The Pennsylvania Game Commission is aware of a video purporting to show individuals assaulting an injured deer. The conduct portrayed in the video is reprehensible and potentially a violation of the law,” officials said.

“Pennsylvania State Game Wardens are currently investigating the matter … Thank you for your help and for your concern for Pennsylvania wildlife.”

FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK FOR MORE FOX LIFESTYLE NEWS

Anyone with information on the footage is urged to contact the Operation Game Thief Hotline at 1-888–PGC-8001 or the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s Northwest Region Dispatch Office at 814-432-3187.
The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30.

The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30. ([bleep])

Facebook users commenting on the footage voiced their disgust over the animal abuse, and demanded that the young men face legal repercussions.

“They need to be charged at the federal level[,] this is disturbing to say the least. PA needs to show that you will not tolerate this and set an example. The public is watching,” one commenter said.

“There is absolutely no excuse for this disturbing and fowl [sic] behavior. As an ethical hunter myself, the thought of these two being called a hunter is sickening,” another agreed. “I speak for myself, and likely for all ethical hunters in saying that we in no way support these horrific acts and hope that they are punished to the full extent of the law.”

In addition, a Change.org petition pushing for the Game Commission to press charges against the boys has since received over 219,000 signatures.

CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP

Breaking with tradition, deer rifle seasoned opened in the Keystone State on Saturday. Historically, the season began on the Monday after Thanksgiving. Back in April, the Game Commission approved the rescheduling of the date, Fox 43 reports, marking the first time in 50 years that deer rifle hunting season opened on a Saturday.

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Originally Posted by satir
Originally Posted by stxhunter
https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdo...lFn6QDHsUp_ekWr0Vy6_nbd77jN4WtLs1ScbrBG8

WARNING: Hyperlinked video contains graphic content depicting animal abuse and graphic language.

The Pennsylvania Game Commission is investigating a “reprehensible” video of two boys abusing an injured deer, in an assault that reportedly occurred on the first day of deer rifle season for hunters in the state.

On Saturday, disturbing video footage hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face while a friend filmed. The male deer, which appeared to have already been shot, laid on the ground and pawed at the attacker, while the two boys could be heard snickering and taunting the animal, per Fox 43.

“Grab his horn and pull him away from that tree,” one of the young men could be heard instructing the other in the disturbing 30-second clip.

WOMAN, 104, BAGS BUCK DURING FIRST HUNT
Disturbing video footage recently hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face.

Disturbing video footage recently hit Facebook featuring a young man repeatedly kicking a buck in the face. ([bleep])

“Something definitely needs done. This video was shared to me from a mutual friend on Snapchat,” Facebook user Gregg Rossman, who originally posted the footage, wrote online. Rossman also claimed that he was “not a part of this” and “shared simply to get the attention of authorities!”

In the days since, the violent video has since gone viral, receiving nearly 6,000 shares on Facebook. The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30, WKBN reports.

The following day, representatives for the Game Commission also spoke out on Facebook to confirm they would be investigating the “reprehensible” incident.

“The Pennsylvania Game Commission is aware of a video purporting to show individuals assaulting an injured deer. The conduct portrayed in the video is reprehensible and potentially a violation of the law,” officials said.

“Pennsylvania State Game Wardens are currently investigating the matter … Thank you for your help and for your concern for Pennsylvania wildlife.”

FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK FOR MORE FOX LIFESTYLE NEWS

Anyone with information on the footage is urged to contact the Operation Game Thief Hotline at 1-888–PGC-8001 or the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s Northwest Region Dispatch Office at 814-432-3187.
The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30.

The incident reportedly occurred near the borough of Brookville on Nov. 30. ([bleep])

Facebook users commenting on the footage voiced their disgust over the animal abuse, and demanded that the young men face legal repercussions.

“They need to be charged at the federal level[,] this is disturbing to say the least. PA needs to show that you will not tolerate this and set an example. The public is watching,” one commenter said.

“There is absolutely no excuse for this disturbing and fowl [sic] behavior. As an ethical hunter myself, the thought of these two being called a hunter is sickening,” another agreed. “I speak for myself, and likely for all ethical hunters in saying that we in no way support these horrific acts and hope that they are punished to the full extent of the law.”

In addition, a Change.org petition pushing for the Game Commission to press charges against the boys has since received over 219,000 signatures.

CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP

Breaking with tradition, deer rifle seasoned opened in the Keystone State on Saturday. Historically, the season began on the Monday after Thanksgiving. Back in April, the Game Commission approved the rescheduling of the date, Fox 43 reports, marking the first time in 50 years that deer rifle hunting season opened on a Saturday.







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My own Ex had a kid when we met, now thirty years later he has me listed as “Dad” on his phone 🙂


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