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With no leadership, pack mentality will rule, and that's never good in these situations.

I wish LEO's could be more proactive, if lawyers and the judiciary would only let them.

Fu-kin cons have TOO many built in rights, it is in fact called the 'criminal justice system' and that needs to change!

FTP

the UPS driver had many opportunties to make a CCW draw and kill them both. When you default on your responsibilities to yourself and society, it can cost you dearly.

This was one of them deals where hindsight is 20/20.

Perps started the party, every one of them Cops was advancing towards the sound of gunfire.

Ya it could have been handled better, in hindsight. But at the he time you had at least two perps opening up in a crowded public setting.

Have the thankfully now dead robbers been identified?

Isn't weaponizing LE and training great these days?

I wonder if the UPS driver and the civilian bystander will even get police escort funerals.....

If they shut the freeway down without applying and paying for the proper permits for a funeral they’d be arrested or worse.

Actually.....I’ll be curious to see how many cops attend their victims funeral. 😬

what was ratio of perp. rounds to LE rounds in that public setting,
while LE were using involuntary road going civilians as human shields when drawing fire from desperado perps.

Terrorists and felons using human shields are considered by most here as out and out low life cowards.

but we have types on the CF [that have previously expressed] that collateral damage by LE gunfire
is quite acceptable when a perp starts shooting at a cop.

course if you as a good citizen were to defend yourself by unleashing a couple Glock mags and happen
to unitendededly kill a cop or two in crossfire, the LE fraternity would not be impressed.

Rules for Hostage Situation

1 – Don’t shoot the hostage.

2 – Don’t shoot if hostage is in the window. *

3 - See Rule # 1.

* Only shot allowed is from scoped rifle with clear kill shot on perp.



It’s really simple…unless you want to be the cop who texts / emails about his involvement for a week / month with everyone he knows, and calls all of his family, friends, and neighbors to watch the 6:00 / 10:00 PM news to “see” him on it, and ask them, “Did you see me?”. “Did you see me shoot?”. Been there…got the phone calls and heard it before…

Not ONE cop ran up along the side of the UPS van, where the perps couldn’t see his approach, to attempt a surprise “step into the door opening shot” to take the guy out to protect all surrounding civilians and save the hostage…not ONE.

But you can bet your azz, they’re all texting about their badazzness to each other right this very minute:

“I dumped it all”

“I got a half dump, and jammed”…[even though he didn’t jam…that’s just to stand out.]

“Who got the kill on him?”

“Going to the bar. Meet us there”…[nothing better than getting drunk while bragging and laughing about the fire fight…right?]

It was involuntary manslaughter of that UPS driver. He was in the window the whole time.

I thought the Patriot Act “paid” for this super duper communication system for all first responders, across multiple counties, to be connected and able to coordinate in any large emergency type situation, so you only have one chief, instead of multiple chiefs. No?

And I guess no hostage training has been taught [academy] or practiced [even once a year], so a real live scene is as “safe” as possible for a hostage and possible trapped citizens.

This is not Monday morning quarterbacking or hindsight…it’s simple common sense that citizens deserve. Their property taxes should not finance an Armed Military, who can’t wait to go hot on the streets, with zero training.

Haven’t seen that many cops in one place since they chased the Juice down.

I don't need to Google s***. I'm just passing on some city-data..

Its no surprise that the LEOs involved are going to say they had no choice and are not responsible for the death of any innocents.

maybe its true, but they weren't going to back off no matter what in that situation.

Since when has using a civilian as cover while firing been SOP?

Fugging Keystone cops.

Holy schit...
Civilians in cars everywhere.
Hostage situation.
What happened to any concept of some sort of precision fire and round accountability.
Kinda shoulda maybe stacked up some scoped long guns to the front of that police convoy if possible.....

"Hey boys this is your chance to get some rounds off at something besides paper for the 1st or only time in your career type of thing"
"Get some"!!!

The local govts. will just raise taxes on the down low to cover the eventual lawsuits from this fiasco.

is that you tex?...…….bob

Looked to me like they blocked the intersection so they could use a traffic backup to stop the perps.