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I am going to order some TAC to try in a .358 Winchester I just put together. Per Mr. Barness I understand TAC is the bees knees for this cartridge.
What other cartridges does TAC really shine in? I’m trying to decide how much to order.
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I've used it for 204 and 223.
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It’s solid in the 338 Fed.
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Pretty much anything with similar bore/case capacity ratio. 308, several of the smaller "assault rifle" cartridges like 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel, etc.
If you haven't done so, I recommend downloading the Western Powders load data (I think version 6.0 is the most recent). It has good data for the Accurate and Ramshot powders, and will be one of your best resources for using TAC.
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Pretty much anything with similar bore/case capacity ratio. 308, several of the smaller "assault rifle" cartridges like 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel, etc.
If you haven't done so, I recommend downloading the Western Powders load data (I think version 6.0 is the most recent). It has good data for the Accurate and Ramshot powders, and will be one of your best resources for using TAC. +1
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223,222,243,257,260 and other like minded.
I even use it in my 47-70.
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Gary Sitton liked it in a 24in. bbl. 30-30
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Anything with a 20-30 grain capacity, and .308 cartridge based stuff it excels......
Ramshot has some of the best loading data in the business if not the best and it's accurate too...
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223,222,243,257,260 and other like minded.
I even use it in my 47-70. Don't know where you got your info but it's definitely a bit too fast burn rate for 243 Win, 257 Bob, and 260 Rem unless you're trying to load very mild loads with faster burning powder. I sure wouldn't be recommending something like TAC as general use for those cartridges.
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44.5grs of TAC,168gr Nosler Ballistic Tip,Win. Large Rifle Magnum primer.2807fps ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/sMnNVPqx/308-TAC-2.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/Ny5PL9v4/308-TAC.jpg)
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I have a pound of it that I am going to use to work up loads for my 6.5 Grendel.
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I've been using TAC as my "next" powder for .223 load development. So far it's given me the tightest groups of all the powders I've tried. often with 4 of 5 rounds touching in a 5rnd group. But there's always one weird flier that lands about 3" or so outside the group. I haven't determined where in the string it occurs yet. I suspect it's a barrel/heat problem.
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I've been using TAC as my "next" powder for .223 load development. So far it's given me the tightest groups of all the powders I've tried. often with 4 of 5 rounds touching in a 5rnd group. But there's always one weird flier that lands about 3" or so outside the group. I haven't determined where in the string it occurs yet. I suspect it's a barrel/heat problem. 2 suggestions: - double check that nothing is contacting your barrel, especially when the barrel and/or forend flex - try a different primer. The S&B primers gave me better accuracy in 223 than CCI 400/450. WSR were decent as well. Also depending on your bullet weight, XTerminator is worth trying as well. It's just a hair faster than TAC, and gave me a little better accuracy and a little more velocity with bullet weights from 50-69gr. Stick with TAC for the heavier bullets. For the really light stuff, 40-45gr, Xterminator was definitely better. Same powder is also sold as AA2230.
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What are some of your best loadings for Xterminator/2230? I've got a bunch of it to use up. Do you have a "standard" load that works in everything including ARs?
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Good .223 powder that flows well through a measure, but I've usually seen slightly better accuracy with H4895, which doesn't flow as well through a measure.
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I've use quite a bit of it in a match barreled AR with great results. My 223 M700 ADL slightly prefers Benchmark but does almost as well with TAC. My well worn 308 doesn't like it as well as several other powders. I've been meaning to look into it's use in the 250-3000 but right now H4895 and Big Game take top honors in those rifles.
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I use TAC in my .350 Rem mag, .308 and .358 Win. Good stuff.
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My 788 in .223 loves a 50-grain V-Max pushed very hard with TAC. Just damn near as accurate as my .222, another 788.
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I burn a lot of TAC, because I've used it with good results in a bunch of cartridges, including the .204 (where it's my most frequently used powder), .221 Fireball with 50-grain bullets, .222 Remington, .250-3000, .30-30, .303 Savage, .300 Savage, .338 Federal, .338 RCM, .358 Wincheser, .350 Remington Magnum and .35 Whelen.
Oh, and the .223 Remington and .308 Winchester! Though I've found different .308's vary some in how well they react to it.
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I'll forever think of John Barsness when I see a canister of TAC and I have a feeling I'm not the only one.
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I'll forever think of John Barsness when I see a canister of TAC and I have a feeling I'm not the only one.
+1 here.
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LOL!
Believe it or not, TAC's been around almost 20 years now, and I was one of a few gun writers invited to visit Ramshot headquarters in Miles City, Montana and shoot some prairie dogs with their powders. They didn't have vast amounts of TAC loading data back then, but I noticed that what they did have came pretty close to IMR4895 data in various rounds. Since I've always figured that one of a gun writer's jobs is to experiment, I started trying TAC in various other rounds. Eventually some bullet companies started working up data in other rounds as well, providing even more room for experimentation.
In general, I have indeed found TAC worth a try in any round where IMR4895 is a good choice.
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What are some of your best loadings for Xterminator/2230? I've got a bunch of it to use up. Do you have a "standard" load that works in everything including ARs? Basically the top book loads in the Western Powders data (you can download the entire manual for free, it's very good info). I used it with their 223 data in a 788 with 40 & 50gr bullets, and use their 5.56 data in ARs now with 50-69gr bullets. In every combination, I found best accuracy at their top book load. The tendency I've seen for that powder to deliver best accuracy at max loads is one of the reasons I like it.
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Is 2230 closer to TAC or Xterminator. I have used 2230 in 223 with exec results. I think I first bought it before the TAC/X term. powder came out.
Most of my loads run from 22 to 26 grains in my 223 depending what bullet I am loading.
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Is 2230 closer to TAC or Xterminator. I have used 2230 in 223 with exec results. I think I first bought it before the TAC/X term. powder came out.
Most of my loads run from 22 to 26 grains in my 223 depending what bullet I am loading. Western Powders claims AA2230 and X-Terminator are the same.
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Is 2230 closer to TAC or Xterminator. I have used 2230 in 223 with exec results. I think I first bought it before the TAC/X term. powder came out.
Most of my loads run from 22 to 26 grains in my 223 depending what bullet I am loading. 2230 is Xterminator. Same powder, different label. Any differences you find in data are just lot to lot differences. Almost all of Western Powder's data for those two powders is identical.
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I've been using TAC as my "next" powder for .223 load development. So far it's given me the tightest groups of all the powders I've tried. often with 4 of 5 rounds touching in a 5rnd group. But there's always one weird flier that lands about 3" or so outside the group. I haven't determined where in the string it occurs yet. I suspect it's a barrel/heat problem. 2 suggestions: - double check that nothing is contacting your barrel, especially when the barrel and/or forend flex - try a different primer. The S&B primers gave me better accuracy in 223 than CCI 400/450. WSR were decent as well. Also depending on your bullet weight, XTerminator is worth trying as well. It's just a hair faster than TAC, and gave me a little better accuracy and a little more velocity with bullet weights from 50-69gr. Stick with TAC for the heavier bullets. For the really light stuff, 40-45gr, Xterminator was definitely better. Same powder is also sold as AA2230. I did the barrel thing. It was the first modification I made. I opened up the barrel channel to where I can slide a small sheet of Rite-in-Rain note paper all the way up to the front of the chamber. I tried X-Terminator before futzing with TAC and found a load that I can live with if I need to fall back on it. I still have a flier outside the group, but it's only an inch or so consistently. It'll shoot minute-of-wolf as far out as I dare to try it in this rain-soaked blowhole. All the bullets are 55gr Sierra SBT. I never thought of changing the primers. I've been stuck on Remington 7 1/2 BR. I do have a supply of both CCI 400, WSRs and maybe two boxes of Remington 6 1/2 SR. I also have Norma 200 and Varget to try out yet too, but I'll try swapping the primers out with the TAC loads and maybe the X-Terminator loads and see what happens. Thanks!
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Western Powders claims AA2230 and X-Terminator are the same. Do they? I know the data seems to be identical between the two but I was not aware that Western had come right out and said so. I believe TAC is the same powder as AA2460, also. Or did someone already say that??
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Western Powders claims AA2230 and X-Terminator are the same. Do they? I know the data seems to be identical between the two but I was not aware that Western had come right out and said so. From 2005 to around 2016 they were the same and Western stated as such in correspondence and other literature, then this: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...41763/ramshot-and-accurate-moving-to-usaHowever, their website still lists both powders as being manufactured in Belgium. I believe TAC is the same powder as AA2460, also. Or did someone already say that?? TAC is NOT the same as 2460, it has a slower burn rate.
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max TAC + 62 grain TSX kills southeastern WT deer about as well as a 308 with a 150 grain power point in the same general body location.
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RiverRider,
TAC is made in Belgium. X-Terminator and the Accurate powders you mention are made by St. Marks in Florida.
By the way, after Western Powders bought Accurate Arms, the "Arms" was dropped. The AA company essentially bought surplus powders and repackaged them, but Western decided to have Accurate powders made to their specifications, to increase consistency.
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Already mentioned but I’ve had outstanding results in two different 350 Rem mags. Worked good in several 308s for me.
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RiverRider,
TAC is made in Belgium. X-Terminator and the Accurate powders you mention are made by St. Marks in Florida.
By the way, after Western Powders bought Accurate Arms, the "Arms" was dropped. The AA company essentially bought surplus powders and repackaged them, but Western decided to have Accurate powders made to their specifications, to increase consistency. Thanks for the correction MD. I was not aware of that fact...and I'm not surprised to be wrong. Again. I think I'll have to look over the Western Powders loading manual again. I use TAC now, but haven't used 2430 in a long, long time.
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I believe TAC is the same powder as AA2460, also. Or did someone already say that??
AA2460 burn rate is in between Xterminator/2230 and TAC. I use all three powders; they are all fairly similar but with mild differences in burn rate. Top loads with each usually end up with about 1-1.5gr less with XTerminator than TAC, with 2460 somewhere in between. That's for 5.56 loads, YMMV and don't use that to "convert" load data from one to the other of course, this is just a rough comparison. BTW - along with the Western Powders load data, also download their burn rate chart - it's in a really convenient format that gives a nice visual comparison of similar burn rates across different brands, rather than just listing them all together in order. I consult that chart more than any other when comparing burn rates.
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RiverRider,
TAC is made in Belgium. X-Terminator and the Accurate powders you mention are made by St. Marks in Florida. That's incorrect. The current status of 2230 and X-Terminator was referenced in the earlier link when another member inquired about this in 2016. The response I received today from Western Powders stated this as well: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/zFTGcwA.jpg)
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Thanks for the update.
One of the wonderful aspects of today's powder manufacturing is how often it changes.
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If it works so well in the .358 Win., does it work as well in the .356 Win.?
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Just for giggles... Cartridge : .356 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .358, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54425
Useable Case Capaci: 38.488 grain H2O = 2.499 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.555 inch = 64.90 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 52000 psi, or 358 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
38 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 75%. These powders have been skipped.
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Hodgdon H335 105.3 40.8 2.64 2380 94.5 52000 5802 1.044
Norma 200 105.5 36.6 2.37 2378 99.4 52000 5454 1.069
Winchester 296 80.1 30.5 1.98 2343 100.0 52000 4979 1.074
Alliant Reloder-10x 107.0 35.8 2.32 2337 98.4 48320 5467 1.086
IMR 4198 106.8 34.0 2.20 2336 99.4 52000 5075 1.050
Lovex D073.4 107.0 40.7 2.64 2332 92.1 51312 5523 1.066
Alliant Reloder-7 101.2 34.7 2.25 2327 99.2 52000 5136 1.070
Vihtavuori N120 105.5 34.2 2.21 2322 100.0 52000 4694 1.060
Vihtavuori N125 99.1 32.7 2.12 2311 100.0 52000 4666 1.067
Accurate 2200 101.2 36.4 2.36 2311 93.7 52000 5316 1.064
Accurate 1680 92.6 34.3 2.22 2306 97.1 52000 5140 1.066
Accurate 5744 87.3 29.6 1.92 2303 99.4 52000 5032 1.064
Lovex D060 89.3 29.6 1.92 2303 99.4 52000 5032 1.064
Accurate 2230 107.0 41.1 2.66 2299 89.2 50073 5429 1.077
Accurate 2460 107.0 40.9 2.65 2297 91.2 47387 5548 1.101
Hodgdon H4227 96.3 31.3 2.03 2297 100.0 52000 4691 1.062
Winchester 748 107.0 40.9 2.65 2295 89.7 45960 5724 1.098
Lovex D073.5 107.0 40.7 2.64 2289 91.0 46831 5531 1.107
Hodgdon H110 81.2 30.9 2.00 2283 100.0 52000 4562 1.085
Lovex D063 84.4 31.3 2.02 2283 99.4 52000 4811 1.065
Hodgdon H322 107.0 36.8 2.39 2281 94.2 45238 5479 1.106
Hodgdon H4198 101.8 33.9 2.20 2278 95.7 52000 4967 1.068
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 80.4 29.6 1.92 2273 100.0 52000 4317 1.087
Lovex S053 97.0 30.9 2.00 2270 100.0 52000 4424 1.077
Alliant Reloder-12 107.0 38.7 2.51 2270 94.4 46145 5356 1.103
Ramshot X-Terminator 107.0 40.5 2.63 2264 87.4 48784 5353 1.094
Vihtavuori N530 107.0 38.2 2.47 2262 89.2 45602 5477 1.110
Accurate 2015 107.0 36.3 2.35 2248 96.6 43400 5263 1.142
Vihtavuori N130 107.0 35.5 2.30 2243 97.6 46024 5021 1.118
Alliant AR-Comp 107.0 36.7 2.38 2237 97.5 39345 5485 1.161
Hodgdon CFE223 107.0 42.3 2.74 2235 84.7 43700 5626 1.128
Hodgdon Benchmark 107.0 37.4 2.42 2226 90.4 46451 5161 1.120
Hodgdon BL-C2 107.0 41.4 2.68 2215 86.2 40863 5609 1.156
Vihtavuori N110 91.0 27.4 1.77 2209 100.0 52000 3951 1.094
Ramshot Wild Boar 107.0 40.6 2.63 2208 84.7 42538 5416 1.144
IMR 8208 XBR 107.0 38.0 2.46 2207 88.0 42785 5271 1.144
Accurate 4100 77.5 28.4 1.84 2206 100.0 52000 3984 1.093
Alliant 2400 75.6 25.5 1.65 2203 100.0 52000 3945 1.092
Ramshot TAC 107.0 40.9 2.65 2194 81.5 44792 5200 1.134
Accurate 2520 107.0 40.0 2.59 2190 88.8 38183 5484 1.186
Hodgdon H4895 107.0 38.0 2.46 2177 85.4 39320 5370 1.182
Lovex S040 81.6 25.8 1.67 2172 100.0 52000 3793 1.092
Norma 202 107.0 37.3 2.42 2159 90.1 37663 5279 1.200
Lovex S060 107.0 36.9 2.39 2147 85.8 42935 4916 1.163
Accurate 2495 107.0 37.1 2.41 2144 92.6 32262 5572 1.271
Lovex D073.6 Match Rifle 107.0 39.1 2.53 2131 87.3 35193 5328 1.229
Norma 201 107.0 37.1 2.41 2121 86.0 37425 5144 1.227
Alliant BLUE DOT 80.4 23.2 1.51 2118 100.0 52000 3544 1.109
IMR 3031 107.0 35.5 2.30 2114 90.3 33697 5311 1.243
Vihtavuori N133 107.0 34.7 2.25 2112 94.1 37942 4758 1.205
Vihtavuori N540 107.0 38.4 2.49 2106 88.3 35484 5186 1.231
IMR 4895 107.0 38.0 2.46 2104 81.7 34999 5256 1.236
Vihtavuori N140 107.0 37.2 2.41 2095 89.4 35878 4973 1.228
Alliant Reloder-15 107.0 38.0 2.46 2074 80.2 34396 5088 1.249
Ramshot Big Game 107.0 40.4 2.62 2073 79.2 35909 5080 1.233
Norma 203B 107.0 38.0 2.46 2063 80.7 33603 5086 1.259
Lovex S062 107.0 36.9 2.39 2045 83.5 32878 4944 1.275
Vihtavuori 3N38 76.0 22.0 1.42 2036 100.0 52000 3102 1.131
IMR 4320 107.0 37.3 2.42 2031 79.5 35132 4763 1.249
Vihtavuori N105 77.4 21.5 1.39 2027 100.0 52000 3047 1.143
Hodgdon VARGET 107.0 36.7 2.38 2024 79.7 34685 4720 1.257
Hodgdon H380 107.0 38.8 2.51 2008 76.1 32462 4834 1.289
IMR 4064 107.0 35.9 2.32 1996 79.5 33015 4617 1.282
Accurate 4064 107.0 37.1 2.41 1991 85.2 26923 5127 1.373
Accurate No.9 67.6 25.5 1.65 2148 100.0 52000 3658 1.101 In my humble opinion, TAC would be a poor choice for the .356 Winchester. Only 81% powder consumption with a case full of powder, and low velocities to boot. It looks to me like the slowest burining handgun powders and fastest rifle powders would be the way to go. I wish I had LT30 and LT32 in my QL database...I think LT30 might be a good one.
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That would be my guess as well. TAC (like many modern powders) works most consistently with pressures around 60,000 PSI, or even a little higher.
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TAC, like H335 and A2230 work wonderfully well in .45-70 and .458 Win Mag with heavy-weight bullets. Bob www.bigbores.ca
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Well darn, I was hoping it would be a super powder for my little .356 Winny. I am probably going to be forced into getting a Mod. 71 Win. made into a Ackley improved and necked up to .35 caliber. Then I would have a real romping stomping all around Alaska lever action rifle. Heck ya!.
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Tac is good for a 40gr Nosler in the 223 ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/jWfA4GWm.jpg)
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Tac is good for a 40gr Nosler in the 223 Roger that . Also the Hornady and Sierra 40 grain
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In reading this while sitting on a dwindling supply of IMR4064 & RL15, what might TAC offer me that those two cant? (would be used in a 308 and 338-06 for reference) Anything particular that might educate me regarding the use of TAC in those two rounds?
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"TAC, like H335 and A2230 work wonderfully well in .45-70 and .458 Win Mag with heavy-weight bullets." Please add the .405 WCF to that list. I did a lot of work with TAC in my 1895 .405 with 400 grain Woodies for Cape buff in Africa. In the end, the final load had ZERO (0) fps deviation at 48,000 psi and looked and smelled like a clean burn. So, I packed it in and packed my bags and took this buff in south east Limpopo: ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](https://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/51933_600x400.jpg) BUT, I did not like the TAC peak pressure spike and switched to VV N133 and replicated the velocity with a peak pressure of less than 40,000 psi. This allowed me to shoot the same velocity load in my .405 DR and tuned it to regulate just fine.
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TAC pours better than 4895 (either) and has a better attitude than H335. So I'm not surprised at all it works (really well) in both 223 and 308. For the 356, you're probably not going to get into its pressure curve. All powders have a favorite peak pressure and if you don't get there, you're wasting gas.
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That would be my guess as well. TAC (like many modern powders) works most consistently with pressures around 60,000 PSI, or even a little higher. Interesting, and I've read that opinion from you about most modern powders. Seems entirely logical. But what about the 30-30 as you mentioned as cartridges loaded? I need to load for a 1952 model 94 that's never been hunting but will go next year. Have 150 gr Hornady round nose on hand and TAC. But looking at pressure levels for the 30-30 it doesn't seem to carry the logic of TAC powder. Does it simply work because it works? Starting from scratch what powder would you choose for the 150 Hornady, not necessarily from the standpoint of max velocity but as a consistent and clean burning propellant. thanks.
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