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Good luck with it at any rate. You could pile on some sort of insulating cover.

It looks like a Richie made in Conrad, Iowa?


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Good luck with it at any rate. You could pile on some sort of insulating cover.

It looks like a Richie made in Conrad, Iowa?



I've thought about that cover, and am still kicking around the idea. Yes, it's a Richie........good tanks too.

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John, this is the old Cowboy heater. It is on it's side. No show place this.[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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Not what first asked about, one of the waterers.[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
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James, do you need extra heat to keep it from freezing?

We put in a Mirrofount that was claimed to not need a heater. We put in a submersible heater, then changed it out completely.



Richard, these are supposed to be freeze proof. They better be, because they're not close to electricity for any kind of heater. Now, the freeze proof claim is based upon the cattle using them, and keeping the water flowing. One of these tanks is in a pasture that will not be used this winter, so I'm a little concerned about it. Thought about draining it, but then have been told not to, as that's what helps to keep it from freezing. I've even explored the possibility of putting in a solar powered light bulb, down underneath the tank where the water line is, hoping it would put out just a little bit of heat.

But, so far I haven't seen anything that I thought would work, so hopefully with global warming being the new norm, it won't get that cold. Typically, we have a low temp in most winters down around zero. Coldest I ever saw here was -22. If it gets that cold, there might be a problem. Time will tell.



We have a bunch of the Mirafount's version of those freeze proof waterers. Our "heat" tubes are usually 6-8' deep, but when it gets below -10 for a few days in a row. The slobber can build up and cause the valve to freeze at the top. Usually dumping a 5 gallon bucket of hot water in will thaw them in a few minutes.


The last 4 or five we've installed all have curb stop with a drain back hole. So we can shut them off and drain them out when not in use.

https://miraco.com/accessories/underground-shut-off-kit/

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Good evening Ben, good to read your posts.


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Our local farm store sells the H&W brand. The used to be good when they soldered the bottom seam. Lately they just use caulk. That leaks badly.
I bought one of the H&W brand tanks and about a year and the seam started leaking. That was about 4 years ago. Still using the same tank but I drained it and sprayed flex seal on both sides. Hasn't leaked a drop since.


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My "tank" is a nonworking 15 cu. ft. chest freezer with a hole cut and lined in the middle of the lid. It's about 200? gallons.

This is for 4 horses. Not what you folks are handling.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Not what first asked about, one of the waterers.[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


I have two of this same model. Mine are near power so there is a 250 watt heat puck in the basin and heat tape on a portion of the 1" supply line. We use a 8" piece of Sonotube about 8' deep under the tank and in ten years it has not frozen. These each will water about 60 to 80 cattle but sometimes there is a line. Where I live these will freeze shut if there is no heat puck in the middle of the basin if it gets down below zero.

My only complaint with them is that there is very little room under the tank if you need to replace anything.

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Way back when I was a young cowboy riding pens in a feed lot, they had heated waterers, but IIRC they were stainless steel.

They would freeze up, too.

On those days they started freezing, we would have to go get them cleaned out and running again.

T'wern't too much fun, given the weather on the days that could freeze heated waterers.


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Wayne, what that lacks in portability, it makes up for in capacity. laugh


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That and it is spring feed, does not freeze up.


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The crick our cows drink from is all plowed up muddy.


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Roundoak must be up in that driftless country. It is a special place....

Someday when I have cattle I will need to figure out the water in winter problem. Thanks for the tips.

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I have a small creek that has water most of the year, although it's not as clear as the water is in Roundoak's creek. I used to use it for watering the cattle most of the time. After we run the county water line through the farm, I put the Richie waterers in. The cows still have access to most of the creek, but they seem to prefer the cleaner water out of the Richie's. Cows play heck on creek banks and crossings, and I don't really care for that.

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Another tank in a different pasture.

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You need more cows Wayne, that grass it too tall. laugh


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One of the creeks our cows drink from. [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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