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Sometimes folks get lucky, or are the exception.
No issue to step up to a much more dependable cartridge or weapon, than a blowgun or 9mm.
YMMV.
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Vesna Vulović , a Serbian flight attendant holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 33,330 ft
Still not the prescribed method.
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Fascinating, just plain old fascinating.
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OP,
Do you have any handgun hunting experience?
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Mac, I do believe his only experience is jacking his mouth. But he is extremely experienced at that!!!
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OP,
Do you have any handgun hunting experience?
hundreds of head of small game, 2 deer, both with 9mm from a baited tree stand. Anyone who can take deer with a bow can do so with a 9mm. It's just a question of setting up the stand properly, having a blind, where you can see them run 100m or more. With a good load and a good hit, from 20m or less, they never make it that far.
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Vesna Vulović , a Serbian flight attendant holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 33,330 ft
Still not the prescribed method. just because you're inept doesn't mean everyone is. It' not luck when when a master pistolero brains them. You just have to bait them in. Guys take them with blowguns and spears.
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Sometimes folks get lucky, or are the exception.
No issue to step up to a much more dependable cartridge or weapon, than a blowgun or 9mm.
YMMV. sure, if all you want is to be just another mediocre nothing, which probably IS all you can realistically expect. Some people can't play chopsticks on the piano. Others give million $ concerts. Same piano.
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Vesna Vulović , a Serbian flight attendant holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 33,330 ft
Still not the prescribed method. just because you're inept doesn't mean everyone is. It' not luck when when a master pistolero brains them. You just have to bait them in. Guys take them with blowguns and spears. All righty then...
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OP,
Do you have any handgun hunting experience?
hundreds of head of small game, 2 deer, both with 9mm from a baited tree stand. Anyone who can take deer with a bow can do so with a 9mm. It's just a question of setting up the stand properly, having a blind, where you can see them run 100m or more. With a good load and a good hit, from 20m or less, they never make it that far. Yeah... That doesn't sound like someone who's actually spent time learning to shoot well. Skill with a bow has nothing to do with skill with a pistol. Not that someone can't kill deer easily with a bow or a 9mm, but there are a LOT of guys who shoot one or the other and can't hit a barn with a 9mm. Between this thread and the one about the CCW guy who got shot (still waiting for a reply on that one BTW), I'm thinking satir is here to impress us, being a master pistolero and a quick draw specialist. We may have some competition here for dla.
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So you haven’t tested this theory on bear yet? I’ve killed more than two deer with handguns and I don’t think the 9mm is a good idea. Can it work? Sure. Consistently? Not so sure.
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So you haven’t tested this theory on bear yet? I’ve killed more than two deer with handguns and I don’t think the 9mm is a good idea. Can it work? Sure. Consistently? Not so sure. Well said. Reflects my experience and opinion on the matter as well.
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Other than a survival situation, why? There should be better rounds out there.
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Exactly right. Getting mauled to death by a brown bear because your head shot with the 22 didn't go to plan is somewhat embarrassing.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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For me absolute minimum would be 357 magnum or 10mm with hard cast rounds by buffalo bore or underwood. I know of two cases locally that 9mm has been used successfully for bear defense but don't think it is a an appropriate caliber for the task.
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another dumb ass with a gun..
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Not everybody has an array of handguns, so they carry what they have.
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