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What would me the major factor in a DRT shot besides bullet placement? Medium size game. Speed or energy? Say 25-06 Rem vs a .308 Win?

Bullet construction and momentum.
Lighter and faster and heavier and slower can both get the job done.

Shot placement.

A well placed bullet with either is good for a DRT or not going any [bleep] where one.

After placement,impact velocity plays the greatest role. Which is why Subsonic affairs,are far from encouraging. Hint. Congratulations?!?

BC fhuqks with pointy heads,as these Droolers attest obliviously. Hint.

Bless their hearts for trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!.................

Hey cone head,

How do you like Kimber rimfire rifles? Post pics and a report unless you dont have the gonads.

For those who buy the Roy Weatherby insurance salesmanship hydrostatic shock bS, it would be 'speed'.

he's quoted as saying;

. “dropped every animal where I hit him....they all died instantly.”

can all real world Roy cartridge users make such claim?

Bullet construction.

Match that to the velocity and the critters being hunted and you increase chances of DRT.

DRT is not guaranteed unless you strike the CNS every time.

Shoot 100 critters in the heart/lung region and you might see 50% DRT and of the others some will barely make it out of their tracks, a few will go down in sight and a couple will make you say how the f'*k did they make it this far with their vitals blown to schitt.

As far as 25-06 vs 308 on medium game which I assume you are talking about deer, get either of those scooting a bullet at 3k fps or better, bust them a little forward and catch bone and your chances for DRT are pretty damn good.......at least in my experience.

Flame away.

#1, choose a bullet with enough weight, proper construction, and with the sectional density to ensure penetration to the vitals on the game hunted.

#2, make sure that bullet impacts with enough speed to expand, but not so much speed that it over expands.

#3, put that bullet in the right spot.

Do that and the results will be the same.

Getting a DRT shot is more dependent on the individual animal than anything we can control. Some animals just don't want to die. I've seen them drop in their tracks and I've seen them run 100 yards with virtually the same shot placement and bullet performance.

Assuming you’ve selected a proper tool for the job, bullet construction then impact velocity.

Energy has nothing to do with it and is largely a meaningless measurement.

Without speed there is no energy.

A fly swatter vs. a baseball bat. Swing each one with the same speed and see which one hurts more...

Some people learn that chidt in kindergarten. Some struggle with the concept all their lives...

I subscribe to all of the above except the energy theory.

My opinion is that energy has been incorrectly applied to the killing equation for so many years that apon discovering the falicy it was deemed as useless. Isn't it possible that the foundation that was used to build incorrect energy theories apon was the root of the problem and not energy itself? If you build a perfect house on a crumbling foundation and the house falls down does it now mean the perfect house is now imperfect or does the house just need a proper foundation in which to stand?

"Apon" and "Falicy"? Oh my...you are a MAGNIFICENT Fhuqktard. Hint Congratulations?!?

The only thing you "shoot",is your mouth and Imagination. Hint.

Bless your heart for tRYING though.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...............

I killed a 4x4 Roosevelt bull several years ago using a 300 Roy with factory Wby ammo, 180 Partitions. The shot was maybe 100 yards, right behind the shoulder (front, of course), about halfway up. The bull was looking at me when I shot him. All he did was turn his head to the front and started walking. I hit him again, similar placement, he soaked that one up, too. I was gonna hit him again when he tipped over.

Died instantly my @ss.




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You are not the ONLY one who drank the kool aid.....

A matter of physics.......... Without Energy there is NO work accomplished. FACT.


Now before someone says......... "xxxxxxx xxxxxxx ".

An arrow kills in a different way than a bullet > > > BOTH require E.


Jerry

I like an MV above 3k. As for bullets either an accubond or an X bullet of some flavor. Put that in the high shoulder region and it pulls the plug immediately. Generally I like a light to med wt for caliber bullet. Results for me have been consistent. I don't hunt or shoot as much as id like to. But when I follow what I've listed above and do my part at the shot...the results are always the same. Hit those shoulders and its instant death. Punch the lungs and it becomes a multiple choice question.

This is true. Of course energy is necessary for a bullet to kill a critter, and more energy means a greater potential to do work, but the correlation between energy and killing power has been badly misconstrued by many for decades. They neglect or misinterpret the word "potential".

Medium game, deer etc, I'll take speed everyday of the week.