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Seems to me that the design of the Creedmoor begs the use of an Old School 155-160 round nose? Has anyone tried it and used it on hogs, or just heavier game? I think it would be fun, but I don't have my rifle yet, so curious....

Some of the testing that I have seen, does not show well for the 160 Interlock. Maybe others are better.

I have used the 160 Hornady some on deer, and will not use it again--and that was at a muzzle velocity of around 2200 from the 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer round. Saw it break both shoulders and exit--and fail to reach the far ribs on a behind-the-shoulder shot.

If you really want to try that sort of bullet I would suggest the 156-grain Norma Oryx, a bonded bullet that's sort of a cross between a round-nose and spitzer. They expand widely yet penetrate pretty well, because normal weight retention is around 90%. Have used them on all sorts of stuff, in various calibers, with very good results.

Why not just use a good pointy bullet designed for the CM? There's no real advantage to using an "old school" round nosed bullet.

The 140 grain bullets worked best in mine.

I'm just curious bsa is all. I will use whatever it shoots best, of course, but I sometimes like to "thump" a critter with a heavy round nose. Nostalgic I suppose.

How about a nice nostalgic 140 Partition?

If it works and you want to try it, I say try it. Yrs ago I loaded some 7 Rem mags with the 175 gr Hornady rd nose bullets and they were definitely thumpers. Double shoulder shots seemed to body slam the 2 or 3 mature does I shot with it.

I recovered one from a javelina. (Hornady)

I don’t get the belief that slower heavy for caliber bullets become “thumpers” and somehow are more effective on game. Hasn’t been my experience. The slower I’ve shot a particular bullet the less damage it has done. Additionally, construction trumps weight on penetration. Example: 160 gr Hornady RN 6.5mm.

grovey,

I have double-shouldered whitetail does with cup-and-core bullets as small as the 100-grain blue box Federal .243's--and they exited.

Plus, double-shoulder shots with bullets that make it through both shoulders (and don't even exit) generally "body-slam" animals, especially if they come anywhere close to the spine--and they generally do. It isn't a result of the bullet (or cartridge, or velocity) but placement.

All true guys, and I enjoy using them all! But they are still fun to hunt/kill game with, for me. My problem is/has always been a lack of time/money to use everything/hunt everything I want to use/try/experience! ha I'm one f those guys who could "literally" hunt/shoot every day of my life...but, didn't turn out that way.

That's about 180 degrees out of phase.

What I meant was the design calls for the ability to shoot a long bullet in a short action w/o crowding the powder space. Semantics, my bad.

Please forgive me for being picky, but it wasn't about the powder space either.

MD, do you have any experience on deer sized animals with the 155 gr Lapua Mega?

Oh you devil you!

I bought a bunch of really cheap PPU 156 gr from Grafs 3 years ago. The shape of the bullet is reminiscent of the old Nosler Semi Pointed. Kind of aerodynamic for a roundnose and they feed very well from the Mannlicher Schoenauer 6.5x54 (but Hornady 160's can occasionally drag on the feed ramp with their more exposed lead nose). The real bottom line is, I got the best groups ever from my rifle with them. Two dinky blacktail bucks don't tell the story on performance, but they worked and I couldn't do an autopsy, through the ribcage. I run them about 2350 fps which is awful tame compared to the possibilities offered by the much larger Creed case. Anyway, at 17 bucks a 100, it's an awful good bullet IMO.

+1 on the PPU's. Woodleigh has a fairly new 160 RN that should be good. No info on the velocity window it was designed for but their other 6.5s have a pretty wide velocity range something like 1,600 - 3,200 fps. They are good with info just ask them and see if they have any load data too.

I am tempted to load up some 160s in the Swede and burn up some AA8700 I have around for a sort of old school load.

The 7mm versions worked great on hogs of any size.

I hear ya and if ya like it and it works have fun. If you pay for the trip to Africa, I will load us up some heavy 6.5 solids and we can poke a hole in a elephants pumpkin and settle this 6.5 Creed debate once and for all!

More like 420° out.