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Yup, plus a threaded barrel, and most importantly the stock is green. That makes it shoot flatter.



I actually like mine quite a bit too; one of the earlier 6.5 Creedmoor versions.

Copy, my 358 is threaded too, which is dumb

I saw that and think that it was the sort of thing that will cause confusion sometime down the road. The box is marked "6MM REM", so why not the barrel?

One of my first two center-fire rifles was a Remington 660 in 6mm REM that was assembled in 01/69. I still have it, although it has been through several different scopes and mounts over the past 50 years.

Wonder if the twist was determined by mag constraints or simply that 1-9 is their standard in .243s too?

Anyway, the Creed version makes more sense unless you factor in nostalgia. Hell, why not a .250/3000?

Ruger advertises the ROT of the 6mm Creedmoor as being 1-7" and the 243 as being 1-9", so it seems that they could have gone either way without any extra effort.

A nostalgic cartridge chambered in a rifle that is anything but nostalgic seem out of sync to me.

I had a Number 1V .243 with a 1-7.7", and have seen that on others as well. Who knows what motivates these guys; maybe just a bunch of 1-9" barrels laying around.

That bit about nostalgia was in jest. Heartily agree about the platform choice. I can think of a better idea, or several. No idea who dreamed this up, but quite possibly someone at Grice, who come to think of it, might've spec'd the twist too.

How does a magazine determine twist?

It doesn't, but if mag length is too short for optimum loads with heavy bullets (i.e.: longer COAL), why twist it fast for heavy bullets??

Thank you.

I didn't go into that, thinking it unnecessary for those who've been attending the University of Wasilla.🤓

So you meant influenced, not determined.

Only seems dumb until you figure out how much fun it is with suppressed subsonic 250gr bullets. Or with a suppressed 158gr hollow point that duplicates 38 Special loads. (Hint, laughin, etc, you know the drill... )

Seriously though, there are a lot of interesting possibilities for suppressed use of a 35 cal rifle, and it's got the suppressed 30 cal stuff beat hands-down.

I knew what you were doing there. Haha.

With a 9mm suppressor...right?? I have thought about this, too. But I'd have to check and see if my suppressor can take it. It's a TiRant, and I think it's aluminum??

Are you guys saying a 9twist won't stabilize the 100-105gr bullets? I knew the old 1in12 wouldn't but the 1in10 has been stabilizing them for years. powdr

105's to 108's would be my choice. I guess the only way to know if they'll stabilize is to shoot them at long range. 100 yards....probably ok. 600 yards.....who knows??

I think there's a reason Barrett twists the 243 and 6mm CM Fieldcrafts at 1-7".

Math expert and grammar Nazi? I'm not sure that's even legal!🤔

Go easy on me. I'm only (barely) a H.S. graduate.

Berger bullets calculator says a 105 would be marginally stable at 6mm Remington speeds.

https://bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/

I graduated ........unfortunately

For subsonics - yeah most 9mm cans should be able to handle that with the right load. Depends on the can - I think a TiRant should be able to handle it, but check with AAC. If it can handle 308 subsonic loads, it'll handle 358. For full power 358 Win loads though, you'd need to step up to something like a Liberty Mystic that'll handle rifle rounds; some manufacturers have been willing to bore out their 30 caliber cans too on a custom basis, I'd be inclined to look into a Thunderbeast Ultra 7 or 9 for that if they'll do it. (Full power loads are worth suppressing too, and make shooting a lot more pleasant even though there is still down-range crack.)

Build your subsonic loads with fast pistol powders - stay in the burn rate range between Clays and Unique. Some guys like Trail Boss, but IMO with various subsonic rifle cartridges I prefer some of the other powders like Bullseye, Clays, or Green Dot for more consistent velocity. Also, cast/coated bullets are way easier to develop subsonic loads with, and a decent cast hollow point can be a devastating deer killer in subsonic loads.

BTW - that Ti-Rant is so named because of the titanium (Ti) outer tube. The inner baffles are mostly aluminum though, with a 17-4 stainless blast baffle. It's a good suppressor.

^ This since it already uses AR mags! 6.8 would be a nice addition for sure!