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It looks like Nikon is not only killing their riflescope lineup, they're also killing their authorized repair program:

https://www.ifixit.com/News/nikon-is-killing-its-authorized-repair-program

Maybe there's bigger issues for Nikon than originally recognized?

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Why buy a camera when the phone you have in your pocket has a good one already?


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Who makes the lenses for those phones?


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The phone cameras I've looked at have all had digital zooms. That's pretty poor quality compared to the optical zooms found on even the cheapest P&S cameras. They're good for snapshots but not so much if you want to enlarge a photo.


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Why buy a camera when the phone you have in your pocket has a good one already?


Because, while OK for snapshots, the tiny sensor in your phone is not up to doing enlargements and IIRC also won't shoot in RAW.


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Why buy a camera when the phone you have in your pocket has a good one already?



Phones are fine for snapshots but for many types of photography (sports/wildlife), they will not work at all.

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But unfortunately for Canon, Pentax, Nikon, Fuji, etc, 99% of the population thinks a snapshot is all there is to photography.


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DAMN! I just ought a Nikon just last month. Bend right over and touch your toes; Nikon shows you where it goes. mad Damn! mad Damn! mad Damn!
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First I heard they dropped the rifle scope line, now camera repair. WTH!!

I have bought a Nikon Laserforce binocular/range finder. I hope that dosen't go South as well. I have always liked Nikon products and have bought cameras, binos etc in the past. Sad to see a famous company wither slowly.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The phone cameras I've looked at have all had digital zooms. That's pretty poor quality compared to the optical zooms found on even the cheapest P&S cameras. They're good for snapshots but not so much if you want to enlarge a photo.


You need to revisit the cameras on current phones. Quite amazing..........as they should be on a $1000 phone.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Who makes the lenses for those phones?


Leica makes quite a few as does Zeiss

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Originally Posted by centershot
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The phone cameras I've looked at have all had digital zooms. That's pretty poor quality compared to the optical zooms found on even the cheapest P&S cameras. They're good for snapshots but not so much if you want to enlarge a photo.


You need to revisit the cameras on current phones. Quite amazing..........as they should be on a $1000 phone.


Yep, I have an Iphone 8 that has a pretty good camera , much better then my point and shoot Panasonic lumix but the iphone 11 blows it away.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
But unfortunately for Canon, Pentax, Nikon, Fuji, etc, 99% of the population thinks a snapshot is all there is to photography.


Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The phone cameras I've looked at have all had digital zooms. That's pretty poor quality compared to the optical zooms found on even the cheapest P&S cameras. They're good for snapshots but not so much if you want to enlarge a photo.


You need to revisit the cameras on current phones. Quite amazing..........as they should be on a $1000 phone.


Yep, I have an Iphone 8 that has a pretty good camera , much better then my point and shoot Panasonic lumix but the iphone 11 blows it away.



I bought a point and shoot from Doug for close to $400 a couple years ago. It was purchased because we had some very sensitive and memorable pictures to take. I spent so much time trying to get that camera to take a picture that was even close to the quality of pictures my IPhone 8 takes To no avail. Only tried to use that camera that 1 time and it’s a $400 paperweight sitting in some drawer in my house!

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When I heard that Nikon was getting out of the scope business, I assumed it was to distance the company from anything gun and shooting related. Be it hunting or whatever. It probably won’t be long until someone associates “super accurate sniper scopes that only belong on the battlefield” with a misdeed committed with a firearm somewhere somehow. I’m probably wrong just thinking out loud.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
But unfortunately for Canon, Pentax, Nikon, Fuji, etc, 99% of the population thinks a snapshot is all there is to photography.



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Originally Posted by PSE
First I heard they dropped the rifle scope line, now camera repair. WTH!!

They aren't getting out of camera repair. Quite the opposite...they are moving it all in-house. Haven't most firearms manufacturers done the same thing?

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Nikon cameras were the standard for years right up to the digital age. I sure hate to see them go out of the camera business but the telephone is so handy and most folks don't want to have to carry a second device to take a snap shot. I have several Nikon scopes and they are my favorite rifle scope.

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Originally Posted by Girlhunter
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But unfortunately for Canon, Pentax, Nikon, Fuji, etc, 99% of the population thinks a snapshot is all there is to photography.



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Originally Posted by centershot
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The phone cameras I've looked at have all had digital zooms. That's pretty poor quality compared to the optical zooms found on even the cheapest P&S cameras. They're good for snapshots but not so much if you want to enlarge a photo.


You need to revisit the cameras on current phones. Quite amazing..........as they should be on a $1000 phone.

The Iphone 8 has only a 2x optical, the rest is digital. My little $200 Panasonic gets me 20x optical and up to 30x with some additional digital. A better camera will do much better yet.
Optical zooms have a series of lenses that move back and forth to focus on the subject. Cameras use a single lens but some actually have as many as 3 separate cameras built in. It's not nearly as good as an optical but it sort of works. The results don't become apparent until you start enlarging. You'll never see it on a Facebook size shot which is where 95% of the photos end up. There's 1 phone, the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom, that has a real optical zoom but it's a strange bird. This photo is looking down from the top of it.

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