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Proper investigation by our Department of Justice . . . absolutely not! Please check my previous posts regarding the Bidens and Clinton. But the key difference here, which it seems far too many here fail to grasp, is that inviting foreign states to do so on political opponents is, at the very least, a serious conflict of interest, and arguably impeachable.
The reason Trump asked Ukraine to do the investigation into Biden's corruption is because that's where Biden's corruption occurred. It's not a difficult thing to understand unless your brains have been turned to schitt by the constant barrage of lies coming from the Communists in Congress and the Communist media.
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Political opponent? Biden is not the chosen Democratic candidate, and he was IN OFFICE as VP when the actions to be investigated occurred. If anything, the previous administration is complicit in not doing their duty.
Investigate them all. It is BEYOND time to do so.
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If you're not willing to call a spade what it is, we can't have an honest discussion. Was it okay for Trump to invite foreign interference on our elections?
I can concede to some great points against the democrats, which I have mentioned. Why can't people here admit he's made some serious mistakes? I'm also on the same page with you all about Biden and Clinton. But it is not accurate to say that Trump has done nothing wrong or has never lied.
The whole premise of your question is false..... it is based upon lies fed to you by the msm.... it's unfortunate you don't posses the critical thinking skills to see through the propaganda. How so? Was every video from every camera doctored? Start a new thread with links to the videos and maybe we have members that can answer whether they are “doctored”.
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![[Linked Image from i.redd.it]](https://i.redd.it/zwd3f1muqe441.jpg) I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues.
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Honest discussion started with a lie. LOL Unless someone was under a rock, they saw Trump asking Russia, Ukraine, and China to investigate Clinton and the Bidens. And I'm not even talking about the phone call. I'm talking about several instances from the man himself to lots of cameras. Or were those doctored videos? And why shouldn't he? They're all criminals. As I said, just wait and see. Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
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Honest discussion started with a lie. LOL Unless someone was under a rock, they saw Trump asking Russia, Ukraine, and China to investigate Clinton and the Bidens. And I'm not even talking about the phone call. I'm talking about several instances from the man himself to lots of cameras. Or were those doctored videos? ................Apparently there is a need to re-educate YOU that YOU sadly overlook..IT IS CALLED THE US CONSTITUTION.. AGAIN!! READ SLOWLY and try to COMPREHEND!! UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE US CONSTITUTION, A SITTING POTUS HAS FULL AUTHORITY TO AUTHORIZE AN INVESTIGATION OF ANY FOREIGN COUNTRY IF IT IS DEEMED THAT CORRUPTION IS TAKING PLACE THAT COULD HAVE ANY ADVERSE AFFECT UPON THE UNITED STATES,,,,,REGARDLESS,,,,,OF WHOMEVER THE SUBJECT OF THE INVESTIGATION MAY BE.............................. The dems in looking for crimes HAVE ASSUMED that Trump was looking for political favor regarding Joe Biden....... Biden has not even been nominated yet. So in technical terms he cannot be considered as a political rival. Sorry akmtnrunner........................By Constitutional standards, NO IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES...... The Constitution of the US is on the side of the POTUS..... Leave your opinions, conjectures, assumptions and emotional blather at the door or throw them all out the damned window...Just a suggestion whereby you would be well served.....
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Getting Biden investigated is a start. It would be better if Trump had the time to coordinate investigations into all the corruption that Democrats have engaged in with the countries that the corruption occurred in.
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I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues. Probably a good thing that you do, since you're as clueless as the rest of the 'tards...............
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Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power.
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Canada's president is an unabashed racist and proud of it. Yeh, you should stick to Canadian politics I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues.
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I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues. Many folks that think this way and want to interpret the "hidden meaning" behind a simple statement are the same ones that wanted "Baby it's Cold Outside" taken off the airwaves because the poor girl is clearly and repeatedly saying she really can't stay. No has to mean No. Unless we're needing it to not mean No next week when we are talking about Trump or the GOP......
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Canada's president is an unabashed racist and proud of it. Yeh, you should stick to Canadian politics I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues. Come on now. Blackface is racist? It's a non-issue.
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Why not? Is it because you think it is okay and he's not done anything wrong, or are you afraid to hold him accountable?
I respect that you trust him more than those others. Because at this point, I'm far more afraid of what would happen if a Democrat got in. I fear for my family. I fear for my livelihood. I fear for my 1st and 2nd Amendment Rights. I fear for the Republic. You remind me of someone I met at a party back during Regan's first term. He wanted me to agree that Regan was a cowboy and trying to take us to war with the Soviets. He wanted Regan impeached on those grounds. He used the same logic and even asked me if I was afraid to hold him accountable for his actions. I think at that point I conveniently found I needed to go to the bathroom and when I got back he was off pestering somebody else. Excuse me. I've got to pee. So you refuse to hold him accountable out of fear of a Democrat. I appreciate your honesty, at least, but this is what I am so frustrated and saddened by. When we refuse to hold 'our guy' accountable just because of party affiliation. That's a dark road to follow down. Please don't confuse me with someone else. You're going to have to try harder to justify not holding the president accountable.
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Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along.
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I found this interesting. That said, I stay out of u.s. politics. Canada has its own share of political issues. Exactly. It takes a lot of creative reading to get there. Fortunately our laws are written in such a way that it takes more than creative reading to convict someone of a crime.
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Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons. Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple [b][/b]
Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along.
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Honest discussion started with a lie. LOL Unless someone was under a rock, they saw Trump asking Russia, Ukraine, and China to investigate Clinton and the Bidens. And I'm not even talking about the phone call. I'm talking about several instances from the man himself to lots of cameras. Or were those doctored videos? ................Apparently there is a need to re-educate YOU that YOU sadly overlook..IT IS CALLED THE US CONSTITUTION.. AGAIN!! READ SLOWLY and try to COMPREHEND!! UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE US CONSTITUTION, A SITTING POTUS HAS FULL AUTHORITY TO AUTHORIZE AN INVESTIGATION OF ANY FOREIGN COUNTRY IF IT IS DEEMED THAT CORRUPTION IS TAKING PLACE THAT COULD HAVE ANY ADVERSE AFFECT UPON THE UNITED STATES,,,,,REGARDLESS,,,,,OF WHOMEVER THE SUBJECT OF THE INVESTIGATION MAY BE.............................. The dems in looking for crimes HAVE ASSUMED that Trump was looking for political favor regarding Joe Biden....... Biden has not even been nominated yet. So in technical terms he cannot be considered as a political rival. Sorry akmtnrunner........................By Constitutional standards, NO IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES...... The Constitution of the US is on the side of the POTUS..... Leave your opinions, conjectures, assumptions and emotional blather at the door or throw them all out the damned window...Just a suggestion whereby you would be well served..... Again, I've said it is great for US to investigate a foreign country. That's cool. But that is not what Trump is being impeached for.
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Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons. Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple [b][/b]
Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along. Not so fast. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/video-trumps-claims-on-ig-report-and-russia-investigation/Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
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Hillary Clinton is running in 2020? Thats news to me Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons. Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple [b][/b]
Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along. Not so fast. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/video-trumps-claims-on-ig-report-and-russia-investigation/Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
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