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No I just apologized 5 months ago for you inviting 4 guys over to hunt hunt bear, he said , ahhhh no problem they’re just grease pigs, it ain’t my buck huntin spots... LOL I called him before I went and never went to his place. You should tell Greg the truth. I tried but the crew was right. 🤪😟.
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Tell Greg the truth about what?? Beave told Greg for reasons unknown to me, then I had to explain after Greg texted/or called him!!! Haha
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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[bleep] [bleep] no matter how it’s flung. Guess I know where to stand.
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That’s for sure.... just remember, I’ve known mills for 35 years, have NEVER hunted with him, and my brother my whole life.... hint
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Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Have you killed anything with 140’s? Me yes lots. Had a few fail at LR. Also use the 210 .308 the The .248 168 and the .338 300.
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Tell Greg the truth about what?? Beave told Greg for reasons unknown to me, then I had to explain after Greg texted/or called him!!! Haha That actually/factually incorrect.. Best to leave GW outta this one. Carry on. 😎
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Ping pong balls for the win.
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I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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“ oh you better tell Greg “!!! Haha I’m thinkin, uh ok wtf?? But no, carry on
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Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Have you killed anything with 140’s? Me yes lots. Had a few fail at LR. Also use the 210 .308 the The .248 168 and the .338 300. Details? I’ve killed elk deer and bear, from 504 to 757 and never seen one go more than 20 yards... that’s 6.5/06 ai started at 3100...
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Have you all busted elk shoulders with the 140? (I assume you're referring to the 6.5mm 140 grain hunting berger).
I have had nothing but bad luck with them doing that. They're awesome on lung shot elk, and have been fine on deer shoulders, but I have seen no less than 6 cow/raghorn scapulas stop the 140....and am almost positive I had a 7th do the same on Saturday...resulting in the first big game critter I have hit and lost in 17 years. Solid shoulder hit at 80 yards (my bad shooting, as I wanted to hit behind the shoulder). Next to no blood. No obvious limp, even in 2 feet of tracking snow. I strongly believe she'll survive, but I am going away from the 140 berger for elk. They're too soft for me.
Does anyone know if the 144 is supposed to be thicker jacketed?
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Have you all busted elk shoulders with the 140? (I assume you're referring to the 6.5mm 140 grain hunting berger).
I have had nothing but bad luck with them doing that. They're awesome on lung shot elk, and have been fine on deer shoulders, but I have seen no less than 6 cow/raghorn scapulas stop the 140....and am almost positive I had a 7th do the same on Saturday...resulting in the first big game critter I have hit and lost in 17 years. Solid shoulder hit at 80 yards (my bad shooting, as I wanted to hit behind the shoulder). Next to no blood. No obvious limp, even in 2 feet of tracking snow. I strongly believe she'll survive, but I am going away from the 140 berger for elk. They're too soft for me.
Does anyone know if the 144 is supposed to be thicker jacketed? Bummer on the elk..... I'd assume, beings it's Target Hybrid, it has the thicker jacket.
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This one busted a raghorn shoulder at 400 yards. Initial velocity was 2670 fps. Bust onside shoulder and traveled to the other side. He wobbled around a bit and tumbled. 140 vld. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/tdIWBe.jpg)
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Never punched bull shoulders, but lotsa muley shoulders. I love em
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Maybe that slower impact velocity was the kicker....I dunno but I have absolutely NOT had that experience with the 140 on elk shoulders.
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Think it had to be. It literally snapped the shoulder bone under the scapula, the really thick part. Not sure how it would have done 600 feet faster though.
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Never punched bull shoulders, but lotsa muley shoulders. I love em I punched through a big 4x4 mule deer's shoulder this year at 388 yards with one, without issue. He sprinted about 50 yards and crashed. The two elk I have shot so far this year? Different story. A bull at 365 yards, and the cow at 80.
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Not sure about drilling bullets.... But it works great for a smashed fingernail. Just don’t jump when it punches thru..... instant relief. Still lose the nail, no more throbbing. Tip drill at welding supply....
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Not sure about drilling bullets.... But it works great for a smashed fingernail. Just don’t jump when it punches thru..... instant relief. Still lose the nail, no more throbbing. Tip drill at welding supply.... Yes sir been there.
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Have you all busted elk shoulders with the 140? (I assume you're referring to the 6.5mm 140 grain hunting berger).
I have had nothing but bad luck with them doing that. They're awesome on lung shot elk, and have been fine on deer shoulders, but I have seen no less than 6 cow/raghorn scapulas stop the 140....and am almost positive I had a 7th do the same on Saturday...resulting in the first big game critter I have hit and lost in 17 years. Solid shoulder hit at 80 yards (my bad shooting, as I wanted to hit behind the shoulder). Next to no blood. No obvious limp, even in 2 feet of tracking snow. I strongly believe she'll survive, but I am going away from the 140 berger for elk. They're too soft for me.
Does anyone know if the 144 is supposed to be thicker jacketed? You plan on switching before NM? I'll be shooting 136gr Scenars out of a 260.
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