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Understood Kent.

and on a good day in the spring (June?) don't be afraid to take that Whaler outside San Diego Harbor to off the beach at Imperial Beach if there's a sand bass bite going on there. Or out to the kelp for some of the bass out there.

Geno

Ken,
I lived in San Diego for a short time and fishing the bays for sand bass saved my sanity.... it used to be very good.... and Geno speaks the truth
Callico's in the kelp is good sport

As I'm getting older my hard hunting days are coming to an end and my fishing days, which are substantial already, will be increased. This last hunting season at 62 years old, I hit it hard, 9 days archery antelope hunting with a few close calls but no shot, then 8 days on a buddy's archery elk hunt when he missed 2 big bulls then able to kill a decent 270 bull on the 8th day and finally my leftover cow elk tag that was in some of the roughest country I've hunted, ended on the 5th day when I was questioning what I was doing out there and passing on a cow that would take me 2 hard days of packing to get the meat out.

I'm looking forward to fishing local, Cali and Baja more and hard hunting less.

Kent

Now you’re talking my language. I moor a boat in Newport, Oregon for 6 months out of the year, May-November. Halibut, salmon, tuna, rockfish, with crabbing whenever. You name it, it’s available.





P

You're a smart and lucky man.

Good fishing there,

Geno

New England is not a homogeneous piece of real estate.

Vermont is so liberal that it is on the very edge of socialist, probably due to an influx of people from the NYC Metro area.

New Hampshire north of Concord is still mostly rural, conservative, and Caucasian.

Maine is Maine, not an attractive place to live because of the grinding rural poverty.

Massachusetts is Kennedy liberal, lots of rich people who want the middle-class to pay for programs that might lift the poor up from their poverty cycles. That said, MA west of I-91 is pretty nice, but it would be nicer is it wasn't burdened by the liberal agenda of the rich and powerful.

Rhode Island is too small to be much more than Providence and its suburbs.

Connecticut is a lot more rural than most people think that it is, but the money and power is in the bedroom communities like Greenwich and Darien and along I-91 and I-95.

I have kin in Vermont, going up there was always a great trip forty or fifty years ago. Still is. Vermont has changed tho CERTAINLY due to an influx of rich urban Liberals. No surprise, Vermont sits within a half day’s drive of every major city between New Jersey and Massachusetts, but IIRC as it always has, constitutional carry still persists in that little state.



Sorta like East Texas without the Black people except with 40 below in the winter, and more blackflies and no-see-ums in the spring than you ever dreamed existed 🙂



Even way back then, Massachusetts gun laws sucked. Leighton has showed us another side tho.



My sister lives just north of there, in a rural area of NY along the Taconic Parkway, North of her lies the Berkshire Mountains of Eastern Massachusett, north of that lies Vermont.

OMG land prices anywhere along that whole NYC/Vermont corridor have gone absolutely through the roof, even by NY standards. Second homes of wealthy urban professionals on high acreage homesites.

Did the LT ever respond to the question “why ya asking”.

Then why does NH keep electing those that want to take it away from everyone?

Much of NH south of Concord is, more or less, an extension of suburban Boston, while the 2/3 of NH north of Concord is mostly conservative, with the exception of the college towns of Hanover and Plymouth and Hanover's "suburb", Lebanon. The majority of the people in NH live south of Concord and tend to think and act like they are part of MA.

A guy who I know a bit had been a NH county sheriff for a long time, was competent, respected, and generally well liked, but he was voted out of office in 2018 because he is a conservative republican. He lost the election because the liberal Democrats in Hanover, Lebanon, and Plymouth voted him out as push-back against President Trump. He was the best, most experienced, candidate and the so called "Blue Wave" got him. I think that it was a short sighted move, but the vitriol that so many Democrats have toward President Trump appears to have influenced them to damn all Republicans and raise up all Democrats without regard for who the best, most qualified candidate actually was.

I think that the political environment in NH may be similar to CO, CT, OR, and WA, in that the liberal populations are concentrated in urban/suburban zip codes, while the conservative populations are scattered n the rural parts of the states. Majority rules and the greater number of voting urban/suburban liberals keeps their agenda moving forward.

Vermont and New Hampshire are beautiful states and have good gun laws. I've been to Washington and Oregon. Didn't particularly care for either and the gun laws suck.

Lived in Oregon back when it hadn't gone completely to ____. I rather be dead than to go back.

It pains me to even think about it, much less resolve it in my mind. The due diligence list would be too long, although I think that I would lean toward a place with the most open public land far from urban population centers. My playground here is 1700 square miles, almost all contiguous, and barely scratches the surface of public playground space available to me within a few hours' drive. That may rule out New England.

There's a lot to not like about Oregon, but please do tell about the gun laws. The county I live in is a 2nd Amendment sanctuary and is as conservative as anywhere I lived in Utah, possibly even more so. There's not a single firearm I couldn't own/possess here if I wanted. No magazine restrictions, no waiting periods, instant background checks, plus no sales tax.

I’d have to strongly consider it.

We loved NE as tourists. Momma drove that small rv like she stole it. Beautiful country, just beautiful

Course we’ve also enjoyed our soirées thru the WC


Damn redwoods and sequoias are a must see in this too short a life



There’s pockets in both places I could live happily


It seems it’s more how you live than where you live

But then I’ve lived in a place I truly love for the last 40 years. Been thru some hard winters too.


My biggest problem with either locale is too many folks for my tastes

Mike!

Never been east of Texas and only there once in '79, don't ever plan on going east but never say never I guess.

Even if I was forced to live on the west coast I'm not far from getting away from people and escaping to wide open country, my perception of the east is that isn't so.

My bloodline has always been some of the first in the west, Augusta Archambeau who guided Fremont and Kit Carson, his brother my greatgreatgrandfather who came to California in the 1840s, not to dig gold but grow grapes... and Powell exploring the Colorado.

I'm a westerner and specifically a southwesterner, I imagine I'll die that way.

Kent

Vermont

Not me. I've been wanting to move to New England for the last 20 years.