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Your use of the term pig Iron was and is incorrect
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Wrapped around the axle about galling? How About brass deforming. Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. I would rather worry about galling than the softness of brass even if the weight was the same Brass is used a lot as a wear metal ...... not much on the park playground but still
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Wrapped around the axle about galling? How About brass deforming. Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. I would rather worry about galling than the softness of brass even if the weight was the same Brass is used a lot as a wear metal ...... not much on the park playground but still Tested like no other. ...
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Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. Thrust washers (bearings) or bushings aren't a thing?
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How many dialing scopes have you used extensively, say for years of up and down?
Also, did not know "pig iron" was used inside 21st-century scopes. John, you're being kind of literal...... I don't "extensively" use any my dialing scopes, and not sure what you mean by up and down. I change loads and adjust for wind left and right often enough, too You may not be aware but most of the various steels start out with pig iron. Can you tell us what materials are used in 20 oz + dialing rifle scopes to make them that heavy? I've made my living with steel for 48 years and have no idea what "pig iron" is. I suspect it is a slang term. I worked in iron ore mining for few years. Pig iron is the first step in iron ore smelting. It's not used as a product for building anything, but rather as a feed stock for further processing.
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How many dialing scopes have you used extensively, say for years of up and down?
Also, did not know "pig iron" was used inside 21st-century scopes. John, you're being kind of literal...... I don't "extensively" use any my dialing scopes, and not sure what you mean by up and down. I change loads and adjust for wind left and right often enough, too You may not be aware but most of the various steels start out with pig iron. Can you tell us what materials are used in 20 oz + dialing rifle scopes to make them that heavy? I've made my living with steel for 48 years and have no idea what "pig iron" is. I suspect it is a slang term. I worked in iron ore mining for few years. Pig iron is the first step in iron ore smelting. It's not used as a product for building anything, but rather as a feed stock for further processing. Exactly
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Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. Thrust washers (bearings) or bushings aren't a thing? I'm a maintenance mechanic at this lime plant and the entire kiln and contents (400 tons + or -) rotate 24/7/365 exclusively on brass bearings. I think brass could handle rifle scope internals just fine. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/mrj9z75T/Lime-plant-Wyoming.jpg)
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Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. Thrust washers (bearings) or bushings aren't a thing? I'm a maintenance mechanic at this lime plant and the entire kiln and contents (400 tons + or -) rotate 24/7/365 exclusively on brass bearings. I think brass could handle rifle scope internals just fine. The real question is are your c-clamps made in China ?
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Does that thing turn the limes into juice?
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Sorry I killed this thread.
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Does that thing turn the limes into juice? It's the 1st ingredient in Brass Monkey.
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Huskemaw - now with plow steel! It does sound like a brand of farm tractor. "See the new Huskemaw 4200 with more diesel power at your local authorized dealer." LMAO. It kinda does! 
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Brass isn’t designed to be a wear metal. Thrust washers (bearings) or bushings aren't a thing? I'm a maintenance mechanic at this lime plant and the entire kiln and contents (400 tons + or -) rotate 24/7/365 exclusively on brass bearings. I think brass could handle rifle scope internals just fine. Sure those Kiln bearings arent bronze?
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Sure those Kiln bearings arent bronze?
You may be correct, good catch.
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Sure those Kiln bearings arent bronze?
You may be correct, good catch. Are they bearings or bushings?
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A bushing is a bearing. Pasted: Bushings, also called sleeve bearings, are just one specific type of bearings. They are made to slide over rods to provide an extremely low-friction motion. They are excellent for shock absorption and work to minimize energy usage, noise, and wear. Bushings are widely used for heavy-duty wheels that require high load-bearing tolerances. And: A bushing is a thin tube or sleeve that allows relative motion by sliding (our type), as compared to rolling. ... Thus, a bushing is a bearing, but a bearing is not necessarily a bushing type. A bearing is the general term for something that allows relative motion between two components, surfaces, etc. From: https://www.ggbearings.com/en/bearingsTo answer your question, they are bushing type bearings.
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Amazing thread, and not because of actual info.
In fact, JFC, if you'll excuse the term (which might means Just For Consideration, but doesn't).
The entertainment value is off the charts....
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Dialing scopes typically have LOTS of erector assembly movement. You can't get 120 MOA of movement in a 1" or 30mm tube. The specialty ELR scopes have 40mm tubes! The more room inside the scope, the more the scope can move. The parts (lots of them are in fact copper alloys) are bigger and heavier. ED glass is VERY dense, bigger internal lenses= heavy. Thicker, stronger main tubes to keep the scope with all its inherent weight from deforming... It's a product of being big and strong.
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Sure those Kiln bearings arent bronze?
You may be correct, good catch. Are they bearings or bushings?
Sure those Kiln bearings arent bronze?
You may be correct, good catch. The iron ore mine I worked at had the largest kiln in north America that we used to cure/ harden green iron ore pellets. The bearings where also bronze as far as I remember.
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Pulp mill kiln, 400' x 13" ran on steel roller bearings, thrust? Lime mud to quicklime that dropped into green liquor from, the recovery furnace to make white liquor that breaks down the chips. I can't remember chit but it was quite a process! NG fired. One man show. A fair amount of dialing required.
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