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I think ive seen Newton rifles talked about here ,,,,Found one at a gun dealer in town ,,,see the schnable end on the stock like savage rifles use ,,Like whats that ,,,,,i think it had 30 usg on it .....Anyone familiar with these ...Decent shape ,,but pricey

I think they are cool! Not many produced. Newton was an interesting fellow.
Model, caliber & condition?
Some general info here...Newton Rifle

Thanks ,,,,,Double trigger set .... opposing on some models

Wow those are nice looking rifles.

Beautiful. Buy it!

1st Model 1916 Newtons are well built rifles, but the later Buffalo Newton rifles have what may be the most dangerous safety ever installed on an American sporting rifle.

I have 3-digit 1st Model 1916 Newton chambered in 256 Newton and 30 USG (30-06).

Newtons were made during the era before non-corrosive primers, so take a good look at the bore before you put your money down.

Oh, that Newton. I was expecting Sir Isaac (of fig fame).

I also have a 3-digit 1st model 1916 edition, 256 Newton. I admire the imagination and the engineering that went into this rifle and am a big fan of Charles Newton. As mentioned, some of the firearms bearing the Newton name were NOT safe to fire. Multiple problems (including the timing of WW I and the loss of Mauser actions) led to bankruptcy for the original Charles Newton business. Some rifles were assembled by the new owners with miscellaneous parts and sold anyway, so provenance is very desirable.

The association of Newton and Savage is notable. Some of the Newton cartridges (22 High Power, 250 Savage/250-3000) were popularized by Savage chambering them in the M-99. Other ideas that saw the light of limited production in Newton rifles included a belt-less 30 caliber round, the 30 Newton, which is about like the current 30-338 Magnum. I have heard of, but never seen, the 35 Newton (think 358 Norma, kind of) and a 40 Newton. The availability of modern powders, especially the slower burners such as 4350 and 4831, gives present-day shooters the velocity and power that was only imagined in the 1916-1928 era. The cartridges were modern for their time and are unfortunately very scarce, as are the rifles. Second cautionary note: the recipes for reloads that I found in P O Ackley's books are OVER MAX. Ken Waters, from Rifle and Handloader magazine fame, presented safe 256 Newton data for the Pet Loads book in about 1989.

Bruce Jennings wrote a well-documented book, Charles Newton, The Father of High Velocity. I am fortunate to have several of those limited edition books. (I guess the modern equivalent of CN would be Roy Weatherby?) Original Newton rifles are very desirable and often carry a hefty price tag.

Well spoken. I too have lusted for a Newton, but never owned one. I guess I have yet another thing to add to my bucket list....

I believe The Newtons last reincarnation (second series - the rights to mfg under the name were held by at least two, maybe three different companies after Newton designed it), the one with the reversed double set triggers, had 30 USG as an option for factory chamber. The 30 Newton would be the other option, but I suppose the propriety 30 Newton was too similar to the 30-06 to sell both options very well.

The .30 Newton has quite a bit more case capacity so it is, performance wise, more like the 300 WIN MAG than the 30-06,

If anyone is interested ..I came home after seeing this Rifle ......Did some research ,,,,and Low and behold its listed online ....My home town gun store is listing online ...go figure ......Its a 30-06 .....id be more interested in it in a Newton caliber but considering the rarity of it ....Its still interesting

If it is the 1st Model 1916 Newton that is currently for sale on GB, the pictures show it as a nice looking rifle. The serial number is stamped on the root of the bolt handle, where it attaches to the body of the bolt, and on the bottom of the receiver.

The Holy Grail of 1st Model 1916 Newtons might be #129, a 256 Newton once owned by Elmer Keith.

256 Newton cases aren't hard to make, but they take a little time. I made 100 256 Newton case from new Winchester/Olin 25-06 brass about 25 years ago for a Husqvarna that I had rebarreled by Ray Montgomery. I could finish around 7 or 8 per hour once I got rolling. I've seen 30 Newton cases made from 7mm REM MAG brass, but I've never owned a Newton rifle that wasn't chambered in either 256 Newton or 30-06, so I've never made any 30 Newton cases myself.

i have a real nice 30 Newton we used 338 Win.Mag. cases to reform into 30 Newtons,but to be honest now days i don`t use it anymore its just too nice so it sets in a gun solvent sock in the gun safe for the last 20 years. i should dig this old Newton out of the gun vault and just see what the serial number is ?

My Newtons are in boxes on a shelf in the vault. I don't remember the last time that I looked at either of them.

Several years ago Bruce Jennings' Daughter sold off his rifle collection. Somehow Bruce ended up with the Savage 1920 long action proto-type sporting rifle that was chambered in 256 Newton, but she had sold it before I knew that it was for sale. I thought that I had bought that rifle at one time from Mark Benenson, but Mark sold it to a guy from Texas by the name of John Smyrl. I heard that Jennings got the rifle from Smyrl's estate, but whoever got it from Jennings' estate is unknown to me.

What happened to Elmer Keiths Newton ? Was it sold at auction ? ,,,,,I ve search Julia auction of Keiths Firearms and cant find it ........

I have no idea what happened to Elmer Keith's Newton. He wrote a few lines about it in "Hell, I Was There!".

I have 2 "Newton" books to sell if interested.
Both limited, both signed by author, both near mint condition.

1) Charles Newton by Bruce Jennings
2) The Newton Rifle by Lawrence Wales

Pay forward prices $200 & $100 shipped.
PM interest.