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We are not anti-nature. We are anti-government intervention in nature. If creation is true humans were created at the top. If evolution is true we evolved to the top and became the top predator. If there were fewer wolves and mountain lions and coyotes I might get two deer tags per year and better than a 4% chance at elk hunting success. If that sounds self center, it is!

Ya, studied ... right.

Nothing more than left-wing know-it-alls, living off taxpayer funds, telling us deplorables what should, or should not take place on our public lands.

F’ ‘em all

We have to ban wolves! They're killing our wolves!

Millennial wolves killing the pack’s Boomer. Nothing new to the animal world. Could unfortunately happen in the human world if given a chance.

The other thing I find interesting is that the very same people who hate the idea of spending money studying wildlife, have no trouble with the concept of spending taxpayer's money to support non-productive corporate structure.
Supposedly (and it is very questionable), we also evolved the ability to reason and understand the ramifications of our choices. What possible harm is there in establishing national parks to preserve wildlife and habitat for the education of future generations? Teddy Roosevelt thought it made sense. Or, what the hell, let's get rid of that crap and do something that will make some money. National Parks are moving that way by selling out to private contractors. Should be great. Maybe they will have the presence of mind to get rid of those wolves, coyotes, bears, alligators and predatory birds. Instead, they can develope some kind of cash crop. For sure they can charge the American people a lot more money to visit their own parks. Good stuff. GD

Nature doing what nature does. I also don’t understand the hate. We, meaning man (us), stepped in and decided to manage the wildlife along time ago. That argument fell on its face about the time Lewis and Clark met the Chinook on the Columbia. 😉. We have a hand in every aspect of “wildlife management”, good or bad we own it. I like being in wild country where bears and wolves live. I’d rather hear a wolf howl than a siren wail. Properly managed predators serve a useful place in nature.

I thank God men like Teddy Roosevelt and John Muir had the foresight they had and the influence they had to affect “change” by halting “progress” in certain magical places like Yellowstone and Yosemite, Grand Canyon, etc lest they be covered from rim to rim in condos and hotels with million dollar views. I suppose they saw how fast man’s progress in the east left little regard for the landscape, thankfully they were empathetic enough to care for some of our countries most beautiful and unique places, our shared wonders of nature.

There’s a lot of real estate out there that needs to be occupied before those gates get open......

Uhh...............Ok.

Probably too ratty to make a decent parka ruff.

LMFAO. 😂

Merry Christmas to you and yours. 👍

Right back at ya!

Not against wolves. Against their being used as surrogacy for other political ends. The YNP wolves are used to shill for expansion of the Park's policies to adjacent landscapes and, of course, the other wildlife. Never mind that wolves DO in fact act against ungulate populations as poachers would in an otherwise-regulated population with managed harvest. Like taking 75 percent of annual production from any given ungulate population in a given region.
In areas where hunting is prohibited or impractical, I'm fine with wolves doing their thing. Be nice to have some around Estes Park, for example. But wolves have really eaten into the deer hunting around here, it's night and day from say, 2004.

A dead wolf is a good wolf.

We hunters are not against wolves in the national parks or grizzlies for that matter. But the problem is the government does not allow controlling them when they venture onto private property and
destroy live stock and game animals.

if there where no "intervention"....when it comes to any wildlife....mankind would kill it all...…...bob

I like wolves. To a point. Would not want a world without them. Was once completely surrounded and shadowed from a few yards in heavy cover by a pack of 5 or 6. Were the dog and I being stalked? Were they just curious? Have no idea, but the result was a pelt on my wall downstairs.

A few years back the lupus lovers got a "buffer zone installed around Denali Park, as some of the Park wolves were getting trapped or shot when they ventured beyond the Park boundry.

A few years later, they were back to F&G to expand the buffer boundry for the same reason.

Not only was that defeated, F&G eliminated the original buffer zone .


Be careful what you ask for.....

Unlike Estes Park, it is a fair dog paddle to Minnesota from Isle Royal. Moats work pretty well and so far the ferry service has refused to sell them tickets.

Too bad all of Michigan's wolves aren't on Isle Royal--would be happy to take up a collection for them in spite of want the moose think.

Osky maybe you could clip the males nuts with a grazing shot. Neutering would be a method of slowing them down on siring pups.

Game Wardens keep a close eye on them around here they have microchips. So I hear. An EMT from the nearby Indian Reservation told me Wolves never kill people. That seems hard to believe. Never say never.

Wolves in Russia: Anxiety Through the Ages Paperback – January 1, 2007
by Will N. Graves (Author), Valerius Geist (Editor)


A wolf do what a wolf has to do....

I can like and appreciate wolves.
But this continued effort to restore a sustainable wolf population to the island seems a bootless errand.

Departures via the occasional ice bridge and current population(s) killing the FNG's aren't going to be circumvented.

And if they insist in continuing the effort, the very least they could do to raise some of the funding via lottery for a few moose to be taken by hunters each year.
But, heck, why would they want to get sportsmen (and women) involved and in support of something like that?

Old wolves lives matter!