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Originally Posted by Jim585
I always thought the spiral magazines on the 14/141 were for pointed bullets.
I was just sharing info I saw posted on the Remington Society web site that strongly suggests RN to avoid feeding problems.
If you have found bullets other than RN working well in your 14/141, that is great!
Good hunting to you all.


I think that their advocacy for round nose bullets had to do with potential COAL problems when cycling ammunition through the magazine.

I don't know that a pointed bullet of weight equal to a comparable round nose bullet would have any practical advantage at typical .35 REM velocities and within the typical performance parameters.

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I had a model 14 that functioned perfectly, with leverevolution 200 gr. Did very well with pointed 150gr, and 200 core lokt, as well. You're probably right about no practical advantage to a pointy bullet, at those velocities. I'm pretty sure the original load was a 200gr round nose. I think it was developed for the model 8. Round nose bullets were in vogue, especially for woods hunting.

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Originally Posted by Tarbe
Originally Posted by Jim585
Has anyone tried non-lead projectiles in their 35 Remington 141 ?


I have not....but...the lightest Barnes I see in .358 cal is 200gr. I think that is going to be long enough to rob a bunch of powder space...not to mention the 35 Rem won't get it going fast enough for optimal performance.

If someone made a 180gr...maybe?

There is the Speers 180 HCFP and also Barnes 180 TTSX but they wouldn’t work in a tube fed gun.

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Got an old red white n green box of 200gr Coreloks.
They're on a shelf.
Pick up my Model 14 this week.
Will try the Leverevolution stuff. May hit the club this weekend.
I can't see the rear sight for chit.

Wonder if a longer base version of skinner peep in the rear dovetail would solve the prob.
Might have to mod something.

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Originally Posted by Oskerspap12
I like 200 gr RN Sierra as fast as a 35 Rem can push it with IMR 3031



I use the same bullet and powder. My Marlin 336-A would not shoot the Rem 200 gr core-lokt worth a darn.

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Try Speer 170gr over IMR 3031

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Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Try Speer 170gr over IMR 3031


We're talking 35 Rem not 30-30.

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Originally Posted by hookeye
Got an old red white n green box of 200gr Coreloks.
They're on a shelf.
Pick up my Model 14 this week.
Will try the Leverevolution stuff. May hit the club this weekend.
I can't see the rear sight for chit.

Wonder if a longer base version of skinner peep in the rear dovetail would solve the prob.
Might have to mod something.

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Originally Posted by benchman
Originally Posted by hookeye
Got an old red white n green box of 200gr Coreloks.
They're on a shelf.
Pick up my Model 14 this week.
Will try the Leverevolution stuff. May hit the club this weekend.
I can't see the rear sight for chit.

Wonder if a longer base version of skinner peep in the rear dovetail would solve the prob.
Might have to mod something.

https://www.ebay.com/c/1710232993



Have this on my 141, a big improvement over the factory rear sight. I like that it is correct for the gun & it folds down for when you want to case it or otherwise want it out if the way.

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Originally Posted by 2500HD
Originally Posted by Tarbe
Originally Posted by Jim585
Has anyone tried non-lead projectiles in their 35 Remington 141 ?


I have not....but...the lightest Barnes I see in .358 cal is 200gr. I think that is going to be long enough to rob a bunch of powder space...not to mention the 35 Rem won't get it going fast enough for optimal performance.

If someone made a 180gr...maybe?

There is the Speers 180 HCFP and also Barnes 180 TTSX but they wouldn’t work in a tube fed gun.


Why won't they work in a 141?

It has a spiraled tube specifically designed to keep the primers and bullet tips separated.


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Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Try Speer 170gr over IMR 3031


We're talking 35 Rem not 30-30.


I am talking 35 Rem must have 400 rounds loaded up maybe more for my 336D, #502 of 1500 made. I have shot deer, blk bear, hogs with that load bang flop but said

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Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Try Speer 170gr over IMR 3031


We're talking 35 Rem not 30-30.


I am talking 35 Rem must have 400 rounds loaded up maybe more for my 336D, #502 of 1500 made. I have shot deer, blk bear, hogs with that load bang flop but said


Maybe you meant 180?

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Picked up the 14 today.
Proly bowhunt tomorrow, maybe take it to the range Sunday.
Had about 2 hrs in cleaning it up. Looks decent enough for me.
Not gonna restore it, like the aging on it. Doe blaster for next yr (since I sold my Contender .35 rem Super14 bbl).
Told my bud I now have two .35 rem rifles like him.
He goes................"I have three".

Well chit, guess I should look for a Grice synth carbine wink

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Originally Posted by 2500HD
Originally Posted by Tarbe
Originally Posted by Jim585
Has anyone tried non-lead projectiles in their 35 Remington 141 ?


I have not....but...the lightest Barnes I see in .358 cal is 200gr. I think that is going to be long enough to rob a bunch of powder space...not to mention the 35 Rem won't get it going fast enough for optimal performance.

If someone made a 180gr...maybe?

There is the Speers 180 HCFP and also Barnes 180 TTSX but they wouldn’t work in a tube fed gun.


I load the Speer 180 grain HotCore Flatpoints in 356 for my Marlin 336 and they work fine through that tubular magazine.

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Yes 180s typo

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Still intend on buying a JM Marlin. Be Well, Rustyzipper.


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Considering how old your Remington Model 14 is, it looks to still be in its original configuration and in excellent condition. We should all be in such good shape at that age.

I have a 141 in 35 REM that somewhere along the line was d&t for a receiver mounted peep sight. SN 302xx. I like the 22" barrel on the 14s better than the 24" barrel on the 141s. I wonder why Remington made that change in what is primarily a woods rifle.

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I haven't harvested any game with the 35 caliber FTX, but the 30 cal 160 FTX has worked admirable on even elk in the 300 savage!

I have used the 35 FTX in the 35 R.E.M. And 356 Winchester. But not on game.......yet.

Terminal ballistics research on the internet most likely has.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Considering how old your Remington Model 14 is, it looks to still be in its original configuration and in excellent condition. We should all be in such good shape at that age.

I have a 141 in 35 REM that somewhere along the line was d&t for a receiver mounted peep sight. SN 302xx. I like the 22" barrel on the 14s better than the 24" barrel on the 141s. I wonder why Remington made that change in what is primarily a woods rifle.



Yup, no holes or studs. Had some finish issues on buttstock, bit of moisture.
Think they ran a kerosene heater and didn't pay attention.
Metal had the start of rust but came right off.
Stock had a couple white milky spots.
They too came off. But some pores now open.
Needs some tru oil to even it out.

I have 2 hours in cleaning it up. Bore is perfect.
Got a box of red/green/white Rem Coreloks too.

I have taken 4 deer now w .35 rem rifles.
First was a doe at 45 ish yards, down in creek bottom, stand in ridge, hit on shoulder.
Wanted to see what it'd do. Angled towards me.
Was FTX handload (shortened per PCR spec before regs changed).
She ran 50 yards and into a big fallen tree. Dead.
Bullet got a lung and ground a path through liver. Did not go past diaphragm and barely chinked offside rib.
Found nothing but fragments. She dressed 122# IIRC

Shot a 175# 9 pointer broadside at 75 the next yr, same load. Back of onside shoulder, front of off shoulder, no bullet recovery.
Ran 75 yards, looked to die mid stride. Snuck up and shot him (no downward angle). Hit was half way up. Exactly where aimed.

Both of those, a 16" Contender carbine.

Next was a 155# 8 pointer on the run going away at 40 yards. I tried to sneak one through the brush into the back of his neck just up from back.
Had a slot he was going into, Dunno if I shot low or he bounced, but it hit spine just fwd of hips. Was in a stand. He dropped and got his front up.
I put the next beside his heart, in and out.
The first bullet I didn't look for, but butcher guy said it mangled one loin for quite a ways.
That was 200gr FTX in factory load.

This yrs buck was 25 yards, from stand, angling towards me. Shot neck shoulder junction and he crumpled. Bullet did not make it to other side. Didn't punch diaphragm either.
Dunno what it did, one lung was trashed. I didn't even dig for the bullet, gave one look and called it done (my buddy shot an 8 pt same time, we were gonna be busy).

My 760 likes the factory ammo (last two deer shot with it).
Have not tried Rem core loks. Yet,


Am 4 for 4 with the FTX but twice bullets have come apart. Maybe they should inside of 50 yards and hitting bone.
Am no expert but thought they should maybe hold together a little better.
Maybe not on the buck that ran, but on the doe w just shoulder hit.


BTW, the model 14 is a 101XXX so think that makes it a '27

Bud has a Skinner I can swap in the rear dovetail and knock out the front for a taller one, might be usable w my eyes.
As is, no go.

I'd have bought it if D&T, but for less money wink







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