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safety wont move to the safe position, what to do?

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Remove the butt stock and eyeball the linkage as you push on the slide. These can be very elusive to solve. I feel your pain.

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I have nothing to add since I don't have a tang safety.
I do have a question though,... does the rifle need to be cocked in order for the safety to slide/function?


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Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage
I have nothing to add since I don't have a tang safety.
I do have a question though,... does the rifle need to be cocked in order for the safety to slide/function?






I have a DE and a CE. The safety will NOT move unless the rifle is cocked.


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Originally Posted by Longbeardking


I have a DE and a CE.


Does this ^^^^^ require an exorcism or an intervention? I can never keep the two straight? shocked wink laugh




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Several years ago I had a similar problem in that the safety would just slightly engage. I removed the butt stock and saw that there was a notch that needed enlarging a little bit to slide properly. Worked good thereafter.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Longbeardking


I have a DE and a CE.


Does this ^^^^^ require an exorcism or an intervention? I can never keep the two straight? shocked wink laugh






Probably a little of both. At some point soon I will have a PE to complete the trio. Luckily the DE is .284, so I killed two birds with one stone. I won't be chasing down anymore post-mils that I can think of.


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The safety meck-a-nysum has a square hole in it that fits over the safe-tee button thingy that hangs down inside the ree-see-vur. Sometimes the meck-a-nysum needs tweaking (bent up) to go over the safe-tee square button thingy hanging down inside the ree-see-vur.

All-sew, the meck-a-nysum thingy has an arm that goes from top to bot-tum about 2" long and 1/4" wide, at an angle. An arm, see it? Makes sure it's not bent out sideways a-rubbin on the inside of the wood thingy , a bindin up-like.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
The safety meck-a-nysum has a square hole in it that fits over the safe-tee button thingy that hangs down inside the ree-see-vur. Sometimes the meck-a-nysum needs tweaking (bent up) to go over the safe-tee square button thingy hanging down inside the ree-see-vur.

All-sew, the meck-a-nysum thingy has an arm that goes from top to bot-tum about 2" long and 1/4" wide, at an angle. An arm, see it? Makes sure it's not bent out sideways a-rubbin on the inside of the wood thingy , a bindin up-like.

couldn't have said it better myself.
actually I tried and couldn't say it! grin


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The man does have a way with words... cool

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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
The man does have a way with words... cool

Well, werds anyways.... wink


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Originally Posted by texken
safety wont move to the safe position, what to do?


texken. I took one apart and here's what I found.

The safety linkage rides onto a shelf on top of the trigger to engage the safety. If the safety linkage is too long, it runs into the trigger rather than riding up onto it, blocking it. If you pull the pin out of the trigger and catch the trigger spring, you can remove some metal on the shelf of the trigger until the safety linkage slides freely onto the trigger shelf and locks it. What I found is all the machanisms need oil to test otherwise it binds up. Once you file the trigger shelf to the point the safety linkage can slide onto the shelf, polish it until it's smooth with 220 sandpaper.

Here's some photos to help illustrate.

The tit sticking down off the safety arm has to ride up onto that shelf on the top of the trigger.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The safety lever is on top, the linkage goes down and behind the trigger.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Here's the three pieces out (Yes, there's a funny s shaped spring involved!)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The square thingy and the square holey dealy in the meck-a-nysm

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The shiny flat surface just above my thumb is the surface to polish until the safety slides onto the trigger correctly

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


You'll have to remove the buttstock, breech bolt stop (1/2" long L shaped tab that stops the breech bolt from going all the way back and falling out) and the breech bolt from the rifle, and this cartridge cutoff.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]




Don't drop the spring. I use assembly goo to hold the spring in place when reassembling. Plain grease might work, or crisco/butter in a pinch.

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I would say the tit should be the "stop" for rearward travel of the safety rather than what I described above, but that's not the way it worked on this rifle. This rifle is as new. FWIW.


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That was real nice of you to go to the trouble to do that for texken. Great pictures, wondered how they worked. Hope I can find this if I ever have that problem. Is this a great place or what. grin

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If that piece needs to be shortened, I would think the issue would have been there from day one. Why does it occur now? Could it be that the trigger return spring is weakened so that it is not returning the trigger far enough forward to lower that lip on the trigger that the safety piece rides up over?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/144200A

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If it was my gun and a faulty safety was involved it would be going to my gunsmith, ymmv.


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Originally Posted by Poconojack

If it was my gun and a faulty safety was involved it would be going to my gunsmith, ymmv.


That's always good advice. ^^^^^^ But, most gunsmiths don't know the first thing about Savage rifles so they'll be learning on your dime.


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Originally Posted by KeithNyst
If that piece needs to be shortened, I would think the issue would have been there from day one. Why does it occur now? Could it be that the trigger return spring is weakened so that it is not returning the trigger far enough forward to lower that lip on the trigger that the safety piece rides up over?

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/144200A


The firing mechanism on these tang safeties is a real cluster**** but the safety where it locks the trigger is very simple. The safety simply slides rearward onto the *shelf* on the trigger and blocks it. Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to make those two pieces engage. Shine a light down in there and move the tang safety while watching what's happening at the trigger. You'll know if they aren't engaged because the tang safety on top of the receiver won't be in the rearward position. Visually there's no mistaking engaged/disengaged.

BTW, as for whether the rifle was like that from day one, I suspect it could have been. This is a 1970 99 DL in 300. It looks unfired/as new. My WAG is that because the safety wasn't engaging this rifle was set aside, never fired, and forgotten. I could be wrong, but that would explain a 50 year old rifle with no use. I was told it came from a widows estate.


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Changed some verbiage to clarify.


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