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The mayor said we can shoot steel targets.

We will see we should have the get together. Rite now it’s on!


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The DNR closed all ranges, my wife saw it on Facebook. I don’t know if that is ours too. Don’t know how long either


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This states simply that the DNR has closed shooting ranges. No mention of State, county or private, just closed shooting ranges. It's about what you expect from our esteemed DNR. The infestation of it by bunny hugging liberals is almost complete.

https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-86469-522163--,00.html


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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
This states simply that the DNR has closed shooting ranges. No mention of State, county or private, just closed shooting ranges. It's about what you expect from our esteemed DNR. The infestation of it by bunny hugging liberals is almost complete.

https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-86469-522163--,00.html


The midnr closed all state run gun ranges. There is nothing in whitlesses EO that directs the closing of gun ranges. The term "club" in the EO is in reference to clubs that serves alcoholic.

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This pertains to public DNR ranges, has nothing to do with private ranges.


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You might surmise that, but it not so clearly doesn't say just State ranges either.
So there.


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Mark there's a lot of conflicting press releases out there. I defer back to the official EO.

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You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......


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We will see! I hope we can have the get together!!!


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......

Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......


Why did you tell them????


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......

T'was my first thought....of course.
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Hey Al, I haven't seen the original EO. What is really the issue here is the incomplete or false information on the DNR's website. Like everything these days, it's sloppy and not very concise.

OK, here's another page that details it properly.
https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79119_79149---,00.html

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Mark I was told late last night that MCSC contacted our congress critter. He wouldn't give any legal opinion or guidance. MUCC was contacted and apparently they are the one recommending the closure.

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Worse case we could just tail gate it there and not use the clubhouse. Everyone bring their own tailgate or chair and we have a great time as always.

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Hey! I’ve got one of those 4570, 7,350 but I’ve never heard of a79119 or a 79139 or a 00html those must be some of the creed moor calibers!


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The DNR has no jurisdiction over private ranges. They only closed MI DNR State Ranges. The EO was meant for club houses and specifically mentions yacht clubs and country clubs where people congregate. Whitmer's spokesman said it was NOT meant to ban outside activities like golf. It's EO 2020-09. Our clubhouse is closed, our ranges are open.


An exerpt:


For purposes of this order:


“Place of public accommodation” means a business, or an educational, refreshment, entertainment, or recreation facility, or an institution of any kind, whether licensed or not, whose goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations are extended, offered, sold, or otherwise made available to the public. Place of public accommodation also includes the facilities of private clubs, including country clubs, golf clubs, boating or yachting clubs, sports or athletic clubs, and dining clubs.


“Place of public amusement” means a place of public accommodation that offers indoor services or facilities, or outdoor services or facilities involving close contact of persons, for amusement or other recreational or entertainment purposes. A place of public amusement includes an amusement park, arcade, bingo hall, bowling alley, indoor climbing facility, skating rink, trampoline park, and other similar recreational or entertainment facilities.


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I read it as the clubhouse would be a place of accommodation and should be closed as clubs are specifically included under the that heading.

On the other hand, club facilities used for amusement or other recreational or entertainment purposes where the activities do not involve close contact, would either be exempt places of amusement, that could stay open, or be outside the scope of the executive order all together.




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https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/0,9309,7-387-90499_90705-521789--,00.html

Copied below in its entirety.

Executive Order 2020-09 (COVID-19)
EXECUTIVE ORDER



No. 2020-9



Temporary restrictions on the use of places of public accommodation





The novel coronavirus (COVID-19) is a respiratory disease that can result in serious illness or death. It is caused by a new strain of coronavirus not previously identified in humans and easily spread from person to person. There is currently no approved vaccine or antiviral treatment for this disease.



On March 10, 2020, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services identified the first two presumptive-positive cases of COVID-19 in Michigan. On that same day, I issued Executive Order 2020-4. This order declared a state of emergency across the state of Michigan under section 1 of article 5 of the Michigan Constitution of 1963, the Emergency Management Act, 1976 PA 390, as amended, MCL 30.401-.421, and the Emergency Powers of the Governor Act of 1945, 1945 PA 302, as amended, MCL 10.31-.33.



The Emergency Management Act vests the governor with broad powers and duties to “cop[e] with dangers to this state or the people of this state presented by a disaster or emergency,” which the governor may implement through “executive orders, proclamations, and directives having the force and effect of law.” MCL 30.403(1)-(2). Similarly, the Emergency Powers of the Governor Act of 1945, provides that, after declaring a state of emergency, “the governor may promulgate reasonable orders, rules, and regulations as he or she considers necessary to protect life and property or to bring the emergency situation within the affected area under control.” MCL 10.31(1).



To mitigate the spread of COVID-19, protect the public health, and provide essential protections to vulnerable Michiganders, it is reasonable and necessary to impose limited and temporary restrictions on the use of places of public accommodation.



Acting under the Michigan Constitution of 1963 and Michigan law, I order the following:


Beginning as soon as possible but no later than March 16, 2020 at 3:00 pm, and continuing until March 30, 2020 at 11:59 pm, the following places of public accommodation are closed to ingress, egress, use, and occupancy by members of the public:


Restaurants, food courts, cafes, coffeehouses, and other places of public accommodation offering food or beverage for on-premises consumption;


Bars, taverns, brew pubs, breweries, microbreweries, distilleries, wineries, tasting rooms, special licensees, clubs, and other places of public accommodation offering alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption;


Hookah bars, cigar bars, and vaping lounges offering their products for on-premises consumption;


Theaters, cinemas, and indoor and outdoor performance venues;


Libraries and museums;


Gymnasiums, fitness centers, recreation centers, indoor sports facilities, indoor exercise facilities, exercise studios, and spas;


Casinos licensed by the Michigan Gaming Control Board, racetracks licensed by the Michigan Gaming Control Board, and Millionaire Parties licensed by the Michigan Gaming Control Board; and


Places of public amusement not otherwise listed above.


Places of public accommodation subject to this section are encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing. In offering food or beverage, a place of public accommodation subject to this section may permit up to five members of the public at one time in the place of public accommodation for the purpose of picking up their food or beverage orders, so long as those individuals are at least six feet apart from one another while on premises.



This section does not prohibit an employee, contractor, vendor, or supplier of a place of public accommodation from entering, exiting, using, or occupying that place of public accommodation in their professional capacity.



The restrictions imposed by this order do not apply to any of the following:


Places of public accommodation that offer food and beverage not for on-premises consumption, including grocery stores, markets, convenience stores, pharmacies, drug stores, and food pantries, other than those portions of the place of public accommodation subject to the requirements of section 1;


Health care facilities, residential care facilities, congregate care facilities, and juvenile justice facilities;


Crisis shelters or similar institutions; and

Food courts inside the secured zones of airports.


For purposes of this order:


“Place of public accommodation” means a business, or an educational, refreshment, entertainment, or recreation facility, or an institution of any kind, whether licensed or not, whose goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations are extended, offered, sold, or otherwise made available to the public. Place of public accommodation also includes the facilities of private clubs, including country clubs, golf clubs, boating or yachting clubs, sports or athletic clubs, and dining clubs.


“Place of public amusement” means a place of public accommodation that offers indoor services or facilities, or outdoor services or facilities involving close contact of persons, for amusement or other recreational or entertainment purposes. A place of public amusement includes an amusement park, arcade, bingo hall, bowling alley, indoor climbing facility, skating rink, trampoline park, and other similar recreational or entertainment facilities.


The director of the Department of Health and Human Services, the Michigan Liquor Control Commission, and the executive director of the Michigan Gaming Control Board must issue orders and directives and take other actions pursuant to law as necessary to implement this order.


This order does not alter any of the obligations under law of an employer affected by this order to its employees or to the employees of another employer.


Consistent with MCL 10.33 and MCL 30.405(3), a willful violation of this order is a misdemeanor.


Given under my hand and the Great Seal of the State of Michigan.



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Originally Posted by Whelenman
Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......

Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......


Why did you tell them????



I'm sorry was that supposed to be a secret?


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Originally Posted by Whelenman
Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......

Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......


Why did you tell them????



I'm sorry was that supposed to be a secret?


Does someone need to bring a port-a-john?

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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Whelenman
Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......

Originally Posted by 12344mag
You do realize Denny did that because he doesn't want you there right.......


Why did you tell them????



I'm sorry was that supposed to be a secret?



Thanks a lot Toby!


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