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Video is worth watching at the link. Studs would have prevented it... https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/V...tragedy-on-Seward-Highway-566540181.htmlVIDEO: Anchorage tow truck driver, APD officer narrowly avoid out of control car on Seward Highway A car speeding out of control at Mile 104 of the Seward Highway narrowly missed a tow truck driver assisting a disabled vehicle on Christmas Day (From Anchorage Police Department) By KTUU News | Posted: Sat 2:18 PM, Dec 28, 2019 | Updated: Sat 2:44 PM, Dec 28, 2019 ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) — A tow truck driver and an APD officer helping a disabled vehicle on the side of the Seward Highway narrowly avoided tragedy on Christmas Day as a car speeding around an icy curve lost control. According to a Facebook post by APD, a local tow truck driver and an APD officer were assisting a vehicle in distress in a pull-out at Mile 104 of the Seward Highway on Christmas Day. Dashcam video from APD shows the tow truck driver kneeling down to examine the driver's side of the disabled vehicle shortly after the APD officer walks out of frame back toward his patrol car. On the left-center of the screen, a white SUV can be seen approaching the curve in the Northbound lane at what appears to be a high rate of speed before losing traction. The SUV begins drifting sideways, kicking up snow and debris as it crossed the center line over into the Southbound lane and the pullout where the disabled vehicle and APD patrol car sat. The tow truck driver can be seen in the video popping his head up just as the SUV slides past him, showering him with snow. "Had any tiny variable been slightly different in these 3 seconds, this could have been an incredibly tragic day," APD said in the Facebook post. "We're grateful that nobody was hurt." APD says this should serve as a reminder for drivers to slow down, plan ahead, and exercise caution on the roads, especially in winter months when roads are covered in ice and snow. "Your life and the lives of others depend on it," APD said. Copyright 2019 KTUU. All Rights Reserved.
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Speed appropriate for conditions would have helped too!
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Years back I had a big firetruck that broke down on I-70 in Utah, The towtruck driver and I had hours to talk on the way to Provo and he pointed out a spot on a bridge. He said a Utah highway Patrol officer was stopped with a disabled vehicle and another car was coming at him so he jumped out of the way and off the bridge in the fog.
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Speed appropriate for conditions would have helped too!
There was no comment about whether the guy was stopped later...
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Studs would have prevented it... So would have good driving habits. Besides overdriving conditions there's the target fixation phenomena. And notice the front wheels remain straight, not countering the skid. New drivers should find an iced over empty parking lot and mess around a bit to get the feel of it - watch out for light poles. Per wiki: Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object.
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Studs would have prevented it... So would have good driving habits. Besides overdriving conditions there's the target fixation phenomena. And notice the front wheels remain straight, not countering the skid. New drivers should find an iced over empty parking lot and mess around a bit to get the feel of it - watch out for light poles. Per wiki: Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object. I have seen more than one bullet hole in large antlers...
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The moron was driving way to fast for the conditions. Idiot got to far to the right, then over corrected, initiating the death slide. Studs wouldn't have made any difference.
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New drivers should find an iced over empty parking lot and mess around a bit to get the feel of it - watch out for light poles. Showing off for my daughter, whom he recently married, my son-in-law crunched the front of a '67 Cougar I restored and gave them. You gotta watch those poles.
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Studs would have prevented it... So would have good driving habits. Besides overdriving conditions there's the target fixation phenomena. And notice the front wheels remain straight, not countering the skid. New drivers should find an iced over empty parking lot and mess around a bit to get the feel of it - watch out for light poles. Per wiki: Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object. I have seen more than one bullet hole in large antlers... LMFAO.....target fixation in the extreme.
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That made the TV news around here but I forgot if it was a local station or on Fox news. All I could think of was that I bet that tow truck driver wishes he was wearing adult diapers. Thank God it missed him.
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people in suv's, mostly women imo, think that because of 4x4 capabilities they're immune from driving safely in hazardous conditions.
See lots of flipped over suvs in the ditch in the PNW during winter driving months, and typically a woman standing buy the flipped over vehicle on her cell phone calling for service
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The moron was driving way to fast for the conditions. Idiot got to far to the right, then over corrected, initiating the death slide. Studs wouldn't have made any difference. Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on studs not doing anything different.
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Studs would have prevented it... So would have good driving habits. Besides overdriving conditions there's the target fixation phenomena. And notice the front wheels remain straight, not countering the skid. New drivers should find an iced over empty parking lot and mess around a bit to get the feel of it - watch out for light poles. Per wiki: Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object. I have seen more than one bullet hole in large antlers... LMFAO.....target fixation in the extreme. At a B&C Awards banquet/show in about '98 there were a couple new world record heads with holey antlers... and several others of unusual size...
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people in suv's, mostly women imo, think that because of 4x4 capabilities they're immune from driving safely in hazardous conditions.
See lots of flipped over suvs in the ditch in the PNW during winter driving months, and typically a woman standing buy the flipped over vehicle on her cell phone calling for service Front wheel drive rigs get lots of them when they turn into the slide and the front tires suddenly catch a little traction and off they go into the ditch...
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The moron was driving way to fast for the conditions. Idiot got to far to the right, then over corrected, initiating the death slide. Studs wouldn't have made any difference. I drove the same highway, the same day as this incident perhaps an hour or less before it happened. I was in an F-150 in 2wd, with Nokian Hakka 8’s (studded) and was driving 55 mph (the speed limit) with absolutely no trouble. You were right except the first statement and the last.
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people in suv's, mostly women imo, think that because of 4x4 capabilities they're immune from driving safely in hazardous conditions.
See lots of flipped over suvs in the ditch in the PNW during winter driving months, and typically a woman standing buy the flipped over vehicle on her cell phone calling for service Moving to Juneau AK after having lived in NW PA and at 7000' in AZ I was quite surprised to see the same thing on the main road there from Auke Bay to the City. One might think that folks that get that kind of weather all the time might have a clue, but no. Nearly every trip I saw a different SUV in the median or off the side. AWD and anti lock brakes are not the supreme answer after all. My tires slipped once, going up a slight incline, in a 1986 2wd Toyota PU................with studs. Geno
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Had a cop killed here about 20 years ago like that. Sort of.
Working for a towing company, i was sitting in the office listening to the Turnpike dispatch radio.
Cop headed to training event, came around a corner, hit ice, And slid off the road. Landed right beside a car that had done same. He called it in and requested plow trucks to work the road.
A couple minutes later the plow driver reports that another car wrecked, and the cop was hurt, bad.
Radios went apeshit, everybody was called and reporting.
Tragic, he was one of the good guys, did a lot with kids.
But, The narrative afterward was that he saw the wrecked car, and even though he was on training duty, he stopped to rescue the Damsel.
Why lie? There wasn't even anything to cover up. Other than his driving wasn't infallible. And it was ice! Anything can happen to anybody on black ice.
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Over steering to compensate causes more accidents than the original skid. How often do you see a car slid right off the road in a curve? Usually, they are past the turn a bit. That's were they landed after they over comped, and couldn't catch the next skid. Have been on a real skid pad multiple times. Company I drove for had one, and I would take students to it if in the neighborhood. I always signed myself in and did it also. Enough that they had a hard time spinning me out, but of course They still could. Finally, they wouldn't let me do it anymore. "This ain't F'n Disney" was the quote. If you enjoy ripping around in a vehicle, an old cop car, Bobtail semi, and a tractor-trailer on a skid pad are one hell of a fun time.
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Over steering to compensate causes more accidents than the original skid.
How often do you see a car slid right off the road in a curve? Usually, they are past the turn a bit.
That's were they landed after they over comped, and couldn't catch the next skid.Have been on a real skid pad multiple times. Company I drove for had one, and I would take students to it if in the neighborhood. I always signed myself in and did it also. Enough that they had a hard time spinning me out, but of course They still could. Finally, they wouldn't let me do it anymore. "This ain't F'n Disney" was the quote. If you enjoy ripping around in a vehicle, an old cop car, Bobtail semi, and a tractor-trailer on a skid pad are one hell of a fun time. This....
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