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Well the loggers are making quick work of the soon home build site. Next will be getting the road cut on in. At the road we will need a drain culvert/tile
What’s better. The heavy duty corrugated plastic or aluminum????
Looking for advice from guys in the know. I haven’t spoke to the excavator in a minute and wanted to know what would be best long haul
Size wise the county has code I have to follow but doesn’t matter which material. I believe it’s 15” or bigger.
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The only drawback to plastic is fire. My oldest son lost about 5 plastic culverts spread out on his property when the Camp Fire in Paradise roared through last year. The wind driven fire even melted his sewer outlet pipe coming out of the house and melted it back under the slab. It's a wonder the house didn't burn down.
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Plastic is what most use.
Make sure you shore up the ends so water can't flow around the culvert. One easy way is to lay bags of ready-mixed concrete like a brick wall. If it's tall you can drive rebar supports through them.
In a very short time it will harden in the bags, creating a firm wall. Putting a few layers of plastic down before you stack the bags makes it even better.
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Nothing beats corrugated steel. Also, "bigger is better" We live at the bottom of steep hills on three sides, and the runoff after a heavy rainstorm converges on our house with no place to go on occasion. We have had to rebuild twice in two years after being flooded nearly a foot deep in part of our house during several days of heavy rain. If the minimum culvert diameter is 15", I strongly suggest using a 24" or larger. The extra cost in both labor and materials will be minimal, compared to having to rebuild after experiencing flood damage. BTW, federal flood insurance covers things a normal homeowner's policy simply refuses to address! Buy it! Jerry
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The good news is we are on a hill, and the drainage ditch on side of road is all we really have to worry about there. We are only 400 yards to top of hill. Have had some good rains this year and we don’t get all that much water in the drainage ditch on this side of road as the road has fall to the other side. I assume keeping ditch cleaned out would be a good idea as well.
Fire isn’t much of a concern here thank the good lord. Mainly just wanna make sure what I use lasts.
I’ll definitely be puring concrete on both ends of it. Could even brick it myself for looks if I wanted/needed. Dads a brick mason and I did learn a little over the years!
Thought about a concrete section at the road as that is the only hill going into our driveway that has much angle to it at all. Figured that would ease long term maintenance of the driveway. The rest would be gravel until you get to the house which would be concrete again
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We use concrete pipe down here with stabilize sand under and all around it.
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We have many on the farm. I've always bought used. I'll vote steel, and as said the bigger the better, and depending on how deep the creek bed is, a long enough pipe for a nice wide road is a must.
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ADS double walled polypropylene pipe.
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I too vote flame retardant steel.
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We use concrete pipe down here with stabilize sand under and all around it. This, I have put miles and miles of it in.
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We use concrete pipe down here with stabilize sand under and all around it. This, I have put miles and miles of it in. Me too, hope I never touch another piece!
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We use concrete pipe down here with stabilize sand under and all around it. This, I have put miles and miles of it in. Me too, hope I never touch another piece! Lol, I retire in four years :-)
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Don't use steel. We had a 24 inch steel culvert on the driveway, put it in in 2002 for $800. Last year, it rusted in two. We replaced it with plastic and the replacement cost was $1700.
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ADS double walled polypropylene pipe. ^^^THIS^^^
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Don't use steel. We had a 24 inch steel culvert on the driveway, put it in in 2002 for $800. Last year, it rusted in two. We replaced it with plastic and the replacement cost was $1700. The expensive part is digging the hole twice.
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Oh, I meant to say, the 24 inch steel pipe that got replaced, was 40 feet long. Two pieces joined together.
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Don't use steel. We had a 24 inch steel culvert on the driveway, put it in in 2002 for $800. Last year, it rusted in two. We replaced it with plastic and the replacement cost was $1700. Exactly right,, silt and or water sits in the corregations and rusts out the bottoms,, unless it is a bitumious coated corregated pipe,, theres a fiberglass pipe out that is mostly fire proof and the best pipe out there excluding concrete pipe,, advice if u want it,,, get the biggest dia pipe u can fit under your road,,, if it calls for for 15" get 24" sticks and trash wont clogg it up as easily,, and a min of 1.0% fall,, smooth interior pipe rushes the water on thru,,
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Good quality galvanized steel will last many years. Watch out for cheaply made culvert.
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I am MAGA.
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One of many on the farm. I bought this one on an auction sale. I'll guess the county took it to the sale.
Last edited by wabigoon; 01/01/20.
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