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Mtwarden? That guy is boring as hell. "Fifteen miles through three feet of snow and 4,000 elevation gain with Tiny Elvis." "Twice on Sunday." How many times can you read that?

Trying to liven the place up here.

well I could talk about the warming huts and the naked woman, but then you guys would lose respect for me

a nice 8 mile loop with Tiny E, the only good thing about getting out in really cold weather is when it turns to just cold weather- it feels warm

Nah, I'd just think you were afraid to pee in a cup, just like Battue. He has similar hallucinations.

Cardio in the gym for me today, 30 minutes HIIT on the stair machine, and then 30 at a steady aerobic pace on the bike. Upper body yesterday, lower body the day before.

Just wanted you guys to know I haven' been slacking off. Or peeing in cups.

In your case HIIT: Highly Intentional Inactivity Training.
Ramp it up, and go for 60 minutes next time.

Bi's, tri's, shoulders, and 20mins of intervals on the stairmaster.

I am not a Dr or a PT but to me it sounds like you might have a muscle imbalance.

That, or tight hamstrings. Tight hamstrings prevent your legs from fully straightening out (extending) with each stride, which in turn puts added stress on knees and lower back. So running or walking long distances has a cumulative effect with each step and causes knee and lower back pain, when your legs don't fully extend.

I learned that about 20 years ago from an orthopedic surgeon who specialized in biomechanics. Went in for knee pain, first thing he did was put me up on the table and extend my legs to see how tight the hamstrings were. They were very tight. Then he drew me a vector diagram and showed me how it worked, with added force on the knees and lower back when the legs don't fully extend. He showed me some good stretches, and the pain went away and hasn't come back.

I doubt highly his hamstring is the problem. Sounds like his calf or quads are torquing the petella. Which is causing the band to get caught.

I would lighten up on the weight for a spell, have someone that I have confidence in take a look at my form to make sure I'm still doing it right, and if not working the stomach enough, would up the mid-section work.

Most PT people are not all that up on serious squat form. First place I would go would be to a serious power lifter that knows.

There's an easy way to find out.

Here's a classic jeff-workout.... grin. Spent about 3 hours under the house fixing a major drain line issue. And a couple more laying on the floor or kneeling and snaking the [bleep]. Good times. I was actually getting cramps in my abs under there, which was funny, because I've been doing crunches at night. Crawling uses everything, as far as I can tell from the aftermath. Pretty tired.

Got a bad cold so that about did me in for the day. And haven't been walking or riding. I think that cold-air "asthma" I had on the one recent ride was this cold coming on. It started in my upper lungs. Tight as a vise.

I wouldn’t say that I squat heavy - at least not compared to young guys. I will do various sets with anything from 225 through 275. I took a break from squats for several month in hopes that it would help. I am easing in again now. It doesn’t hurt until I hit somewhere between 4 and 7 miles but once it kicks in, every downhill step (and some others) hurts.

That is what it seems like. I work in an office and sit a lot. Apparently, all the sitting can lead to a weak hip muscle that can cause the knee pain. I have found no confirmation that squats contribute but that has been my experience. I’m attempting to work on the imbalance.

Muscle weakness in the hip, hamstrings and glutes can all cause knee pain. Prolonged sitting can weaken all three. Efficient running and doing squats starts with balanced hips. Downhill is harder on the knees than the level.

Don’t know what you mean by not being a young guy, but running form tends to weaken as we get older. With age the knees tend to start going south.

Problem could be related to the hips, or the need to cut back on the running and slowly build up to previous mileage. Or the knees themselves.

I’d start with the hips and cutting back on the running distance, along with having an Ortho take a look at the knees.

Running into middle age and beyond, isn’t for all.

Finished up a good week of biking, incline treadmill walks with boots and pack, and some yoga stretching. Hope I can keep up the momentum.

Last day of 2nd archery tomorrow (if weather cooperates) then plan to start shed hunting with pack.

Theeck - check out starting strength squat videos on YouTube.

I’m in my 40s. I don’t run much anymore except very occasionally HIIT on a track. I mountain bike quite a bit when the weather is decent.

“Don’t run much anymore, except very occasionally”, but it hurts after 4-7miles, may be a clue.

Theeck, do you have pain after doing squats when you don't run?

4-7 miles of hiking. I may not have put that in my original post. Sorry

I'd echo the advice to go in and see someone; not just anyone, but someone who specializes in sport medicine

there is a ton of info on the internet for ITBS (it's a common injury among runners-probably hikers too :)), this article suggests a few ways to possibly combat it

ITBS treatment