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Man drives are traditional at that time in SC. It takes coordination and strict observance of safety to do it safely. Lots of people been shot over the years doing it and not because they were mistaken. Buckshot is prone to ricochet. People take shots at deer they shouldn't and probably wouldn't had they plenty of time to consider it. It is easy to lose track of the other hunters in the thick cover or swing a little too far and get out of your safe field of fire. You really have to keep it in mind and let deer go if you aren't 100% sure. They used to not even investigate until the law was changed some years ago. This is not something a nine year old girl should be involved in at all.

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Originally Posted by ConradCA
I could see an idiot shooting at a deer, missing and the bullets going through brush and hitting someone.


This is about the only way I could call this an accident. And then only maybe...


What a terrible thing to happen.


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I wonder how many shots he fired. With a rifle a pass through that hit the other one is possible


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I cannot imagine doing this type of hunt.

Prayers for their family.

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Probably shooting at sound and/or motion.


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EMTs said wounds consistent with shotgun injury.

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Originally Posted by kelbro
I cannot imagine doing this type of hunt.

Prayers for their family.

You are missing out. When deer come busting out, hellbent for the other side of the county, its pretty exciting. I sit and wait sometimes, which is effective but exciting it ain't.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Unless the father was wearing a fur on buck skin suit, and the daughter had antlers growing above her ears, the shooter should spend life without.

NO EXCUSE!

And then some.

No matter what he shot them with the media will probably claim it was a full auto AR with a 100 round CLIP.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I wonder how many shots he fired. With a rifle a pass through that hit the other one is possible

Had to be multiple shots. He would have to be shot in the pelvis and pass through then hit the 9 year old in the head. Just doesn't add up.


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I hope to God that the shooter was not a child too, in Pa, people bitched when they raised the hunting age to 6 or 7 , before they raised it there was no age limit, a 2 year old was allowed to hunt deer !


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Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I wonder how many shots he fired. With a rifle a pass through that hit the other one is possible

Had to be multiple shots. He would have to be shot in the pelvis and pass through then hit the 9 year old in the head. Just doesn't add up.

It wouldn't be hard for a bullet or slug to do that.
Without knowing all the details it's pointless to speculate or make assumptions.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
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I wonder how many shots he fired. With a rifle a pass through that hit the other one is possible

Had to be multiple shots. He would have to be shot in the pelvis and pass through then hit the 9 year old in the head. Just doesn't add up.

It wouldn't be hard for a bullet or slug to do that.
Without knowing all the details it's pointless to speculate or make assumptions.


Kids have a tenancy to stand close to their parents. Could have easily been a single shoot, especially if buck shot was being used by the hunter.


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Back in the day, "beaters (blacks) were "hired" to kick up the deer.
This was a practice in the low country of the state. About Richland county to the coast.
Refered to as a deer drive.
I participated in ONE. In my entire life I've never heard or seen anything like it.
I was set-up on a high point and had a pump 12 with 00.
When the shooting started I was so nervous I moved to a big pine and got my back against it. It sounded like a fkin war.
I got a doe that came screaming by.
When all was clear and we made it back to the group , about 20 guys, one man and I were the only ones to kill a deer.
I swore I'd never hunt like that again.
I can easily see how someone could get shot. And usually, in SC, someone does every year.


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any more news on this?


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If you shoot someone while you are out hunting. You own it 100%. No alibis.

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I've been hunting for 59 years and I've shot my share of deer. In that time I've NEVER seen a man who looked like a deer or a deer that looked like a man. On the lowest level of simplicity, beside the number of legs, a man's torso is vertical while a deer's is horizontal. They don't mix.


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I was an avid deer hunter in central Georgia throughout the 80s and the 90s. I was also a paramedic. Small town, I knew all three game wardens on a first name basis.
We had lots of deer hunting accidents. If I didn't work the call, then I got the first hand scoop, either from the medics who worked the call, or else from the wardens.
Back then, punishment for a hunting accident wasn't too severe, and a few of these "accidents" we had to wonder if it was actually murder.

The worst one I saw was a 22 year old college boy was hunting with a 70 year old guy. They were at opposite ends of a 200 yard field.
At dark, the old guy came walking across the field. College boy thought he was a deer and he fired! Hit the man right in the middle of the thigh with a 7mm mag.
A little entrance wound. But the bullet hit the femur, the thigh bone. Good God the xray was unreal. It blew the middle 8 inches of the femur into powder. The exit wound was about 12 inches long, and wide.

My little hospital couldn't handle it, so we transferred him to the big hospital in Macon. I attended on the 45 minute transfer, the guy was conscious but in severe shock. We were hanging blood big time, but, he had lost so much blood. Even the Medical Center of Macon couldn't handle it and the guy got his leg amputated. He had lost so much blood it was like a stroke, the guy's brain was badly damaged but he did survive.

And this man jumped into Normandy with the 101st Airborne, on D-Day, but he had never been wounded in the war.

They suspended the kid's hunting license for 5 years and he had to pay a fine. Since then, the punishment has been increased for hunting accidents.

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Mr. Harvey said the father and daughter were shot with a shotgun. Their autopsies will be performed on Sunday.

“They were deer hunting, so they were using what we would call buckshot,” he said.


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Coroner's report is out. Doesn't say much that is new. But, he does say that it looks like dad and girl were killed with a single shot.
For starters you have to be close to kill with buckshot. I have never hunted with it, but I doubt it would kill on a torso shot past 100 yards.
Y'all buckshot experts can chime in.
I mean, if it were a 30-06 the sky would be the limit could have been 400 yards.

So, probably 50 yards, maybe closer. Plus, one shot killed dad and the girl. At 50 yards what is the shot pattern, about 15 inches?
So the man and the little girl were real close to the shooter, and standing right next to each other.
Unreal, I live in North Carolina and our leaves went bye bye 8 weeks ago. And I bet all the leaves are down in coastal S. Carolina.

If dad and the girl weren't wearing orange, had he survived he needed to be put in jail.
If they had on orange, how in hell could their own hunting partner take a shot like that? Haven't heard of any charges being brought.




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A buckshot is described by several hunting websites as the largest type of “shot” used in shotgun shells. As indicated in the name, it was created for hunting medium to large game animals such as deer. The shot bursts in the air, releasing multiple projectiles. The coroner said it was likely one shot that hit both of the victims.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
At 50 yards what is the shot pattern, about 15 inches?


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COLLETON CO., S.C. (WCBD) – Colleton County Coroner, Richard Harvey, has provided more details on the deaths of Kim and Lauren Drawdy, the father and daughter who died in a hunting accident last week.

Harvey said that both victims died from “buckshot wounds to the torso.”

He ruled the death accidental.

A buckshot is described by several hunting websites as the largest type of “shot” used in shotgun shells. As indicated in the name, it was created for hunting medium to large game animals such as deer. The shot bursts in the air, releasing multiple projectiles. The coroner said it was likely one shot that hit both of the victims.



I think a 50 yard buck pattern would be much more than 15 inches, but could be wrong on that.

Interesting to learn that buckshot "bursts in the air, releasing multiple projectiles". never knew that.

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