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I don't create a hazard. Now answer my question.

Cyclists don't break laws with any greater frequency than motorists do. A number of studies have shown this. When cyclists do break laws they often cite safety reasons for doing so. Motorists say they most often break the law for reasons of convenience. When cyclists break the law they don't present much of a danger to others at all. The same cannot be said for motorists.

Logging truck coming toward us in the other lane of a narrow winding 50 mph highway. No way to go around the bicycle. The 15 mile stretch I most hate to share the road with bicyclists is 30 miles from the nearest town and where cyclists are so rare you gotta be kidding about creeping around corners to look for one in the unlikely case one is in my lane. Logging trucks and bicycles are an unwise mix, FWIW. This is the Far West, where time is money to loggers, ranchers and miners who use the roads. Unless it is icy or heavy fog, they are going to drive the speed limit, at least. It is NOT pastoral lanes in New England...

Yeah right bitch.

Fuuck you.

Take a few Pamprin and see me in the morning hun.

What if another logging truck was broken down around that corner? Boulder in the road? Car accident? Someone who drives for a living shouldn't have to be told not to outdrive his line of sight. But I guess such is the state of modern "professional" drivers.

Let Me Have It. I Am a Bicyclist....

Translation: it's okay for cyclists to break laws because of the perception of safety. I'm sure running stop signs and lit intersections squares with that theory.
Explain again how not yielding to runners fits that theory?

I gotta ask Paul,...

Do you see yourself as some sort of liaison that is going to convince “neutral” people to embrace the idea of bicycles on the roads?...or are you simply trolling for attention because it amuses you?

If it’s the former, then I can tell you you’re badly missing the mark. You’re coming across as an azzhole partner, and I truly mean that with the least offense possible. If it’s the latter, then by all means press on and enjoy yourself and all the associated discontent.

I’ll state for the record I’m largely indifferent about the topic, and ride my bike to work with some degree of frequency during the summer on a combination of roads and trails. I’ll also state for the record I come across as an azzhole at times as well.

Dave

Threads now more like Let Me Have It I Am a Bicyclist. And then I'll attack all of your opinions because I am morally superior. A Bicyclist.

I didn't say I wouldn't give back.

I give pedestrians and runners the same wide berth I like motor vehicles to give me. When space won't allow, I scrub off speed to pass with minimal disparity and I politely announce my presence. There are plenty of places it makes safety sense for me to run red lights on my bicycle. Are you going to tell me you never break the speed limit? Always come to a complete stop for stop signs and right turn on red? Signal every turn and lane change? because if you do, that bring the grand total of people I know who obey every motor vehicle law up to a grand total of 1.

The OP loves the attention, yes. That's the point of his threads.....

I am not presenting myself as an ambassador for bicycling on the road at all. People have made up their mind, and I won't move the needle at all. If someone wants to have a discussion, I'll have one. If someone wants to whine, I'll tell them they are whining. If someone wants to try to make bicyclists on the road out to be a "problem" I'll illustrate how they aren't. I have learned that people feel a need to bitch about bicyclists. This is a place for them to do that. It seems folks are enjoying themselves.

That's the point of ALL social media posts.

The world does have those who are bound and determined to beat their head trying to make it the way they are convinced it should be.

I'll correct the highlighted portion of your post. You'll throw bullchit out there and paint a pic with your bloody tampon that isn't close to reality. But carry on, it is funny.

Eehhh...agree to disagree. Lots of people simply answering questions on this site (and others). Lots of people just asking questions too.

Lots of “look at me” stuff too. I’ve done some of that on my hunting posts if I’m being totally honest. I guess in my mind at least, a FEW people enjoy the story though. That’s the intent at least.

I was just trying to figure out where your motivations lay with this one. You answered the question.

Pedal bikers if encountered alone and on the appropriate stretch of highway are not a big deal. But traffic on those aforementioned 2 lane roads is bi-directional. I'll let you work that out.

Simply slowing down and going around them isn't often an option, though you'd have the detached reader believe it so.

It's apparent to anyone reading you don't care. Honestly I don't care about the pedal biker/motorized vehicle traffic in LA. I do care about it here, as I and my family deal with it.

I don't hate bicyclists. I just think many of them are extremely foolish in the risks they take with their lives, which is OK with me except that their risk involves drivers of other vehicles. That kind are arrogant elitists who insist that all traffic and the rest of the world give way, go around them no matter how inconvenient or unsafe, and leave their little slowly moving patch of roadway sacrosanct. FWIW, on the stretch of curvy highway heavy with logging traffic, I have come around a corner with rockslide boulders on the road, deer and elk in the road, a tree down in the dark one morning.. and have hit none of them. None of them have been as much hassle or hazard as a bicyclist claiming the lane as his and requiring everyone to cross the center line to go around him.

I do hate some bicycle traffic channels that are designed to cause bike/vehicle collisions for those who obey the traffic signs.
Don't know if it is still there but there used to be a designed disaster bike lane on a quarter mile long hill in the north end of the Seattle sprawl. A four lane street with a 35 mph speed limit ran straight down the medium steep slope, with a couple of cross streets, the one near the bottom of the hill with a stop light. The traffic folks added a bike lane on the far right hand side of the downhill lanes.

Bikes going down the hill could easily get up to 35 mph. A driver going downhill who was turning right at a green stoplight could have a bicyclist speeding past him on his right perfectly timed to hit the side of his car. It is normally illegal to make a right turn from a center lane, due to the risk of a vehicle on the right of the one turning... but this fiasco is DESIGNED that way! Both the car turning right and the cyclist going straight through have a green light!

I learned to not only look for pedestrians and cross traffic but to watch for some hard-to-see nitwit bicyclist with a green light whizzing past me on my right as I made a right turn. I never hit one but it was not due to cyclist caution, ever. They had a green light and seemed oblivious to other traffic. That suicide bike lane is one of the reasons I'm glad I moved.