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Had a neighbor who was a big reloader and passed away recently. Very organized guy. His wife gave me some loaded 30/06 rounds he did
1- 20 grains of green dot over a 120 grain lead bullet
2 - 13 grains of green dot over 120 grain lead bullet
What do you guys think of these ??? He was old and recoil shy.
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I wouldn't shoot them.
Someine else's reloads for a gun other than mine.... Ain't happening
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Pull the bullets, dump the powder.
If you are looking for reduced recoil loads, check an old Speer manual. Or load H4895 to 60% of max.
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It’s probably 300/400 rounds.
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Buy a Hornady cam lock bullet puller. You can pull 400 bullets in a couple hours.
Unknown powder makes good lawn fertilizer.
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I wouldn’t shoot another person’s reloads
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You never know if they guy was a drunk or totally distracted when reloading. Not worth the chance in my book.
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Pull the bullets and reload with known quantity of powder.
Rifle loads with quick burning shotgun powders can quickly get overpressure.
For example, 20 grains of green dot and a 125 bullet is roughly 41kpsi; 30 grains is 74kpsi (and not even a full case).
All is takes is one round out of the 300/400 to accidentally have 30 grains and you have a big problem.
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Yep, what they said.
There's 5-6 pounds of lead in those bullets. A caster would like to have them to melt down and may even pay you for it or swap you something in return. Your flower beds will like the gunpowder fertilizer. You can then run the cases into a sizing die (minus the decapping rod) to true them up and then reload them with your powder/bullet of choice.
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Ok. I don’t reload so I’ll find someone to take these. Shame.
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I would not even go THERE.
If the next guy blows up a rifle, and loses an eye, you are complicit.
At least that is the way I would look at the situation. If I could not break down the cartridges, I would make sure they ended up in a landfill somewhere.
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Ammo loaded by someone else are a potential risk just not worth taking
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Agree above....Also 20 grains of Green Dot...I think is in excess of 45,000 cup...vel prolly in excess of 2000fps, gulp. A little too perky. 13 gr is a published load, 1800 fps, 31,000 cup.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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We can close this thread. I’m not shooting them.
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We can close this thread. I’m not shooting them. Don’t give them away, either. P
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20 grains of green dot over a 125gr jacketed bullet, 42K PSI.
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Sierra SP 2120
Useable Case Capaci: 67.523 grain H2O = 4.384 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant GREEN DOT
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.5% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-25.0 43 15.00 1960 1066 27869 2503 100.0 1.706
-22.5 45 15.50 1994 1103 29203 2577 100.0 1.646
-20.0 46 16.00 2027 1140 30539 2652 100.0 1.598
-17.5 48 16.50 2059 1177 31884 2725 100.0 1.558
-15.0 49 17.00 2091 1214 33241 2799 100.0 1.521
-12.5 50 17.50 2123 1250 34612 2873 100.0 1.488
-10.0 52 18.00 2153 1287 35997 2946 100.0 1.457
-07.5 53 18.50 2184 1324 37398 3018 100.0 1.429
-05.0 55 19.00 2214 1360 38815 3091 100.0 1.401
-02.5 56 19.50 2243 1397 40248 3163 100.0 1.374
+00.0 58 20.00 2272 1433 41699 3234 100.0 1.349
+02.5 59 20.50 2301 1470 43166 3306 100.0 1.325
+05.0 61 21.00 2330 1506 44651 3376 100.0 1.302
+07.5 62 21.50 2358 1543 46154 3447 100.0 1.281
+10.0 63 22.00 2385 1579 47674 3517 100.0 1.261
+12.5 65 22.50 2412 1615 49214 3587 100.0 1.242
Double charge is 117K PSI.
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You should probably turn these in to the police bomb squad. You might want to hire a pair of escort vehicles with flashing lights and warning signs to precede and follow you there.
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Buy a Grip-N-Pull and pull them all. I think the bullets were probably over the powder, not the other way around.
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I've given a couple classes on basic reloading at the gun club I belong to and the people will ask what it takes to start reloading. I always tell them to go out and buy a stuck case remover and a a impact bullet puller and have them in their hands before they get any other reloading equipment. Also, don't shoot any cartridge that you don't know *****1000%**** what is in it.
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Someone will buy them for the brass
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