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Originally Posted by Musicianized
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yes...... you use the reticle OR dialing, depending... Or a combo of BOTH. Where are you? I have steel out to a mile in eastern CO, and your welcome to come learn on it anytime (and mils, too). But I reckon you are from back east somewhere by the 336 and 45-70 comments......

Michigan


Where in Michigan?


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Nightforce SHV 4-14x50 F1 Riflescope Mil-R FFP C557

What about this one?


What are you putting this on?


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
Nightforce SHV 4-14x50 F1 Riflescope Mil-R FFP C557

What about this one?


If you have a Cabela's or Sportsman's Warehouse nearby, you can check it out in person.

I've come close to buying one, but don't care for their reticles. Image quality is pretty good. Eyebox seems OK, but I was expecting better for a 50mm and 14x. I wouldn't have any concerns with zero retention, return to zero, or tracking with the SHV.

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yes...... you use the reticle OR dialing, depending... Or a combo of BOTH. Where are you? I have steel out to a mile in eastern CO, and your welcome to come learn on it anytime (and mils, too). But I reckon you are from back east somewhere by the 336 and 45-70 comments......

Michigan


Where in Michigan?

Big Rapids


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Originally Posted by 4th_point
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Nightforce SHV 4-14x50 F1 Riflescope Mil-R FFP C557

What about this one?


If you have a Cabela's or Sportsman's Warehouse nearby, you can check it out in person.

I've come close to buying one, but don't care for their reticles. Image quality is pretty good. Eyebox seems OK, but I was expecting better for a 50mm and 14x. I wouldn't have any concerns with zero retention, return to zero, or tracking with the SHV.


It looks like the same reticle as the Bushnell lol


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
It looks like the same reticle as the Bushnell lol


Perhaps due to your lack of familiarity with them. That's OK. You'll figure out what you like once you start using different scopes, different reticle/turret configurations, etc.

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yes...... you use the reticle OR dialing, depending... Or a combo of BOTH. Where are you? I have steel out to a mile in eastern CO, and your welcome to come learn on it anytime (and mils, too). But I reckon you are from back east somewhere by the 336 and 45-70 comments......

Michigan


Where in Michigan?

Big Rapids



While a visit to Huntsman’s range would be worth the trip, you’ve got lots of opportunity’s in MI.

If you’re in Big Rapids, you’re not too far from one of the best long range facilities in the world, MTC.

http://www.marksmanshiptrainingcenter.com/


Bryan Litz, of Applied Ballistics in Cedar Springs does courses there.

https://appliedballisticstrainingdivision.com/






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Originally Posted by huntsman22
yes...... you use the reticle OR dialing, depending... Or a combo of BOTH. Where are you? I have steel out to a mile in eastern CO, and your welcome to come learn on it anytime (and mils, too). But I reckon you are from back east somewhere by the 336 and 45-70 comments......

Michigan


Where in Michigan?

Big Rapids



While a visit to Huntsman’s range would be worth the trip, you’ve got lots of opportunity’s in MI.

If you’re in Big Rapids, you’re not too far from one of the best long range facilities in the world, MTC.

http://www.marksmanshiptrainingcenter.com/


Bryan Litz, of Applied Ballistics in Cedar Springs does courses there.

https://appliedballisticstrainingdivision.com/





Cool I never knew they were there.


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Fortymile and Musicianized,

I have an extra SWFA 6x with MQ reticle that I bought on Black Friday. If you want it, you can have it for what I paid which was $200. You just have to pay shipping.

The 6x and 10x SWFA scopes are bombproof and an easy way to try a mil-mil scope for low bucks. If you don't like it, put it on a rimfire, or sell it. You can probably sell it for more than $200 as the scopes are normally $300 and have good resale.

Anyway, just a thought.

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
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put it on my 6.5 and sight it in to 200yds.. and cleanly miss deer (big time) at 400 by aiming 2" high...


fixed it for you, buddy


About a 5" drop between 200 and 400yds with a 143gr eld, With a 200yd zero and aiming 2" high on a 400yd shot.. that would be well within the killzone of a deer. Lol


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
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put it on my 6.5 and sight it in to 200yds.. and cleanly miss deer (big time) at 400 by aiming 2" high...


fixed it for you, buddy


About a 5" drop between 200 and 400yds with a 143gr eld, With a 200yd zero and aiming 2" high on a 400yd shot.. that would be well within the killzone of a deer. Lol



Why would one compensate for 5" of drop by adding 2" of elevation?


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
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put it on my 6.5 and sight it in to 200yds.. and cleanly miss deer (big time) at 400 by aiming 2" high...


fixed it for you, buddy


About a 5" drop between 200 and 400yds with a 143gr eld, With a 200yd zero and aiming 2" high on a 400yd shot.. that would be well within the killzone of a deer. Lol




You'd be better served checking the real ballistics, before making a fool of yourself. Just how fast do you think you're pushing them?.......

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Originally Posted by kingston
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put it on my 6.5 and sight it in to 200yds.. and cleanly miss deer (big time) at 400 by aiming 2" high...


fixed it for you, buddy


About a 5" drop between 200 and 400yds with a 143gr eld, With a 200yd zero and aiming 2" high on a 400yd shot.. that would be well within the killzone of a deer. Lol



Why would one compensate for 5" of drop by adding 2" of elevation?


I wouldnt, now that I looked up the trajectory I would aim 5" high. 😁


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
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Originally Posted by huntsman22
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put it on my 6.5 and sight it in to 200yds.. and cleanly miss deer (big time) at 400 by aiming 2" high...


fixed it for you, buddy


About a 5" drop between 200 and 400yds with a 143gr eld, With a 200yd zero and aiming 2" high on a 400yd shot.. that would be well within the killzone of a deer. Lol




You'd be better served checking the real ballistics, before making a fool of yourself. Just how fast do you think you're pushing them?.......

Yep you're right.. apparently the ballistics apps are wrong and the preset velocity is too high. Big difference in ballistics on the box of nosler 142 eld than what comes up in the apps I downloaded. A really big difference.


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So my 3o year old 3x bushnell is out of the question. I'm glad you cleard that up for me. Thanks. 😜


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Dude...

Your are the classic ask for advice but ignore the folks who know waaaaay more than you. Get a Leupold and come back and see us in 6 months, if you actually even shoot. That's the classic 24HC way. Might as well be a part of it....

Have fun and good luck!


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Originally Posted by GregW
Dude...

Your are the classic ask for advice but ignore the folks who know waaaaay more than you. Get a Leupold and come back and see us in 6 months, if you actually even shoot. That's the classic 24HC way. Might as well be a part of it....

Have fun and good luck!


I'm not ignoring anyone pal.


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
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Dude...

Your are the classic ask for advice but ignore the folks who know waaaaay more than you. Get a Leupold and come back and see us in 6 months, if you actually even shoot. That's the classic 24HC way. Might as well be a part of it....

Have fun and good luck!


I'm not ignoring anyone pal.

On the contrary.. Ive been reading up on the mildot reticles all day. That's what I plan on getting. Anyways.. it's whatever.. can't take a joke about a 3x bushnell?

Tha ks for the help guys.


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