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Hickok45 announced that he has a new Python for review, and he's having to admit he was wrong. He had always maintained that he doesn't want Colt to start making them again, because to make them right, he had formerly maintained, they'd have to charge something like $3,500.00 for them, and if they made them affordable, they'd be substandard in one way or another. He says that he has to admit he was wrong, since he really likes the new one, and even said he prefers the new trigger action over the original one. He also praised it in terms of fit, finish, quality, etc., and expects it to be more rugged than the originals, in terms of a regular diet of .357 Magnum. He thinks its ruggedness will be on par with the L-Frames of S&W.

He's working on the full review video, which will be out in a few days, but just wanted to let folks know his initial impressions.

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I think it is a very nice revolver but it is much too different to actually be a Python



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Originally Posted by jwp475


I think it is a very nice revolver but it is much too different to actually be a Python

You know that S&W periodically modernized the internal and external designs of their revolvers from the late 19th Century till today. Even the vaunted pre-82 models are pretty different in design from their pre-WWII versions, both externally and internally. Some of the design changes were pretty dramatic between, say, the pre-WWII models and their 1970s versions.

A pre-WWII M&P and a 1968 M&P S&W are mechanically very different. You can even lay them side by side and point out all the obvious differences, let alone the internal design differences, yet both are generally referred to as the S&W M&P revolver. Model 10 became the numerical designation, but they were still generally referred to as the M&P.

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I think it is a very nice revolver but it is much too different to actually be a Python

You know that S&W periodically modernized the internal and external designs of their revolvers from the late 19th Century till today. Even the vaunted pre-82 models are pretty different in design from their pre-WWII versions, both externally and internally. Some of the design changes were pretty dramatic between, say, the pre-WWII models and their 1970s versions.

A pre-WWII M&P and a 1968 M&P S&W are mechanically very different. You can even lay them side by side and point out all the obvious differences, let alone the internal design differences, yet both are generally referred to as the S&W M&P revolver. Model 10 became the numerical designation, but they were still generally referred to as the M&P.


Making many older models much more desirable.

Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?



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Originally Posted by jwp475

Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.



Everyone knows that. Answer my question if you know the answer



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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.



Everyone knows that. Answer my question if you know the answer

I don't know. I have heard it said that they simplified some of the lockwork of the original Python to make it more amenable to modern manufacturing techniques, require less hand fitting, increase its ruggedness, and to improve the double action trigger pull characteristics.

The King Cobra is a smaller revolver, so it's almost certainly not the same lockwork. How similar it might be, I don't know.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475

Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.



Everyone knows that. Answer my question if you know the answer




Why be a douche? He's just offering up what he knows.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jwp475

Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.



Everyone knows that. Answer my question if you know the answer




Why be a douche? He's just offering up what he knows.

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Surely you jest

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jwp475

Is the lock work of the new Python like a King Cobra or all new, do you know?


Lockwork is not the same as the previous Python.



Everyone knows that. Answer my question if you know the answer




Why be a douche? He's just offering up what he knows.

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Surely you just
JUST ?? LOL,maybe Jest ?? Look it up urban dictionary.. confused

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phone spells what it wants

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What we're seeing is the romantic notion of the original Python exposed to reality. The Python trigger was never very good - it stacked. The new Python improves it at probably 1/3 the cost.

Colt changed the lock work?

Good.


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I don't care about if the lock work is old, new, or improved as long as the trigger pull is smooth and crisp at let off. Looks like this news is going to cost me about $1500!


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Originally Posted by jwp475


I think it is a very nice revolver but it is much too different to actually be a Python


Colt owns the name and manufacturing rights for the Python. They can make about whatever they wish to and call it by the python name. If colt says it's a Python, it's a Python. Whether the new revolver adds to or detracts from the image of the Colt Python is entirely on them.

I hope that it does well.


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The reputation of the model70 Winchester has taken a ride over the years.

Is the model 70 a functional work of art or a clumsy and ill designed dog turd? And that's a matter of perspective.

During the most shunned era of the Model 70, those who bought and used them mostly found them to be completely functional and as accurate or more so than even the pre-war specimens.


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phone spells what it wants
Smart phone dumb operator,I get it now..

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Best to anybody that wants one.

I've had the original and it's a POS.


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Originally Posted by coobie
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phone spells what it wants
Smart phone dumb operator,I get it now..



Are you sure



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And another thing...or two.

The original Python in Royal Blue was a sight. A nickel Python is not my style, but might be handy if a parade broke out that I wanted to join. A stainless Python is bailing out on the primary expense and attraction of the revolver - the polishing and finish.

Eyup, I can hardly wait to see my first 'new' Python in stainless with a set of Pachmayr's proudly carried in Uncle Mike's nylon.


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Colt was offering a stainless Python in the 1980s, no?

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