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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
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Yeah, apart from better sights, I leave all my Glocks 100% stock. The trigger can be mastered fine the way it comes.


Yes, it's a very high precision trigger & with a little bit of practice, you'll be able to consistently make head shots in the ear hole under extreme duress at 60+ feet in a church setting.

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Once you take up the slack, Glock triggers have a pretty crisp wall before the break. With just a little practice, you can bring it back to the wall, and from there it's not much worse a trigger for precise shots than that found on a typical 1911. Precision shots are not much harder to achieve, if at all, once you understand the trigger. Off hand, no support, I can keep shots inside a pie plate at 25 yards, using my Glock 26, without much trouble at all.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
it's not much worse a trigger for precise shots than that found on a typical 1911.


Oh, my....................

Haven't seen many Glocks lately on the 50 yard slow fire line though, just sayin'. wink

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I've got 3 M&P's with Apex triggers and kits in them, I like em a bunch.

Since September or October, I've bought 3 Glock's, a 43, a G45 Gen 5 and a Gen 5 17 MOS, so basically all gen 5's and the thing I like best about them is they're all stock except sights. I've been Glockified too! My next purchase will be a G44.

I'm down to one 1911 and that might be one too many...

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Interesting I traded my RIA 10mm on the Glock 20. I'm eyeing the 45 ACP (21?). I'm also looking at a 17 for goofing around. If I shoot the 17 better than the 48, I'll likely sell the 48.


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Also of note, I weighed the trigger pull of my 20 and 48. They were 5.5 and 5 lbs respectively. I would have bet they were 7-8-9 lbs.


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Originally Posted by TWR
I've got 3 M&P's with Apex triggers and kits in them, I like em a bunch.

Since September or October, I've bought 3 Glock's, a 43, a G45 Gen 5 and a Gen 5 17 MOS, so basically all gen 5's and the thing I like best about them is they're all stock except sights. I've been Glockified too! My next purchase will be a G44.



The M&P 2.0 triggers are better, IMO, than the stock Glock triggers; but I do have to say that the G5 that I have, with the addition of a connector only, is better than any of the other previous versions of the Glock triggers that I have, even with them being worked over.

The G5 is a sample of one, but we've got 7-8 G3's & 4's, & as delivered there's a fair amount of variance in the feel & break of those triggers.

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Originally Posted by TWR
I've got 3 M&P's with Apex triggers and kits in them, I like em a bunch.

Since September or October, I've bought 3 Glock's, a 43, a G45 Gen 5 and a Gen 5 17 MOS, so basically all gen 5's and the thing I like best about them is they're all stock except sights. I've been Glockified too! My next purchase will be a G44.

I'm down to one 1911 and that might be one too many...

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Your talking .45acp?

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I've got 3 M&P's with Apex triggers and kits in them, I like em a bunch.

Since September or October, I've bought 3 Glock's, a 43, a G45 Gen 5 and a Gen 5 17 MOS, so basically all gen 5's and the thing I like best about them is they're all stock except sights. I've been Glockified too! My next purchase will be a G44.

I'm down to one 1911 and that might be one too many...

G30.
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Your talking .45acp?

Love my Glock 30.

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Before you do anything, shoot at least 500 rounds or more through the gun. Make sure the thing works before you dump money into it. Yeah I know, its a Glock, perfection and blah, blah, but all the gun companies turn out a lemon occasionally. Make sure you like it after the newness wears off. Get familiar with the gun. Work on your grip and trigger control, figure it out before you begin throwing money at it.

If it runs and you decide it suits you, put some decent sights on it. The plastic ball in a bucket sights are slot fillers. I like steel tritium dot over dot sights, or a tritium front only and black steel on the back. I might swap out a connector and a spring but I don't get too involved in the Glock trigger. I did put a polished stainless guide rod and 22 lb. recoil spring in my G20. That smooths out the true 10mm hot 200 & 220 grain 1,200+ fps Underwood loads. Other than that I shoot the chit out of it and pack it in bear, lion and hog country.


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Low and left eh. Dot on dot, no 6 o’clock hold. Left, adjust your grip and or your trigger finger.

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You have been enlightened by the illuminated ones showing great illumination with their enlightening words of enlightened instruction that will give an illuminated appearence as you endeavor to reach an illuminated level to fulfill your goal.
BUT REMEMBER REAR SIGHTS CAN BE DRIFTED AND GLOCK SELLS DIFFERENT HEIGHT REAR SIGHTS in case the the illumination that has been shown upon you somehow dims in illumination power.
Go forth and illuminate others with your illuminated knowledge before it dims to just an ember glow.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
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I've got 3 M&P's with Apex triggers and kits in them, I like em a bunch.

Since September or October, I've bought 3 Glock's, a 43, a G45 Gen 5 and a Gen 5 17 MOS, so basically all gen 5's and the thing I like best about them is they're all stock except sights. I've been Glockified too! My next purchase will be a G44.



The M&P 2.0 triggers are better, IMO, than the stock Glock triggers; but I do have to say that the G5 that I have, with the addition of a connector only, is better than any of the other previous versions of the Glock triggers that I have, even with them being worked over.

The G5 is a sample of one, but we've got 7-8 G3's & 4's, & as delivered there's a fair amount of variance in the feel & break of those triggers.

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I had a few 1.0’s that got the Apex kits and triggers but once the 2.0’s came out, I was all in and shot 2 of them stock. Then one day after a match, I shot a guys 2.0C just like mine but he had An Apex flat faced trigger and I couldn’t help myself. I ordered 2 of them and thought I was set.

Then I needed a pocket pistol for running and found a good deal on a G43. That led to the G45 (9mm) which led to a G17.5 MOS. The triggers on all 3 of mine are the best stock striker fired triggers I’ve shot. The gen 5 guns won me over.

Fester, my G45 is 9mm but after shooting a 460 Roland, I’m kinda liking the big Glock and might wind up with one.

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Originally Posted by MOGC
Before you do anything, shoot at least 500 rounds or more through the gun. Make sure the thing works before you dump money into it. Yeah I know, its a Glock, perfection and blah, blah, but all the gun companies turn out a lemon occasionally. Make sure you like it after the newness wears off. Get familiar with the gun. Work on your grip and trigger control, figure it out before you begin throwing money at it.

If it runs and you decide it suits you, put some decent sights on it. The plastic ball in a bucket sights are slot fillers. I like steel tritium dot over dot sights, or a tritium front only and black steel on the back. I might swap out a connector and a spring but I don't get too involved in the Glock trigger. I did put a polished stainless guide rod and 22 lb. recoil spring in my G20. That smooths out the true 10mm hot 200 & 220 grain 1,200+ fps Underwood loads. Other than that I shoot the chit out of it and pack it in bear, lion and hog country.


Exactly what I was looking for - thank you. I've run 150 rounds through it since I bought it - with 15 round mags, it don't take long to run 50 <G>. It functions perfect. I'm getting used to the trigger but would really like it to be a bit lighter. It is crisp with no creep just a bit heavy. I'll have a look at the steel tritium. I've had fiber optic on other pistols and like how they show up at the edges of daylight and dark days. Thanks again!


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I like my 21 G3. I would like to have tritium sights though. I think I want suppressor height sights to help my old eyes see them. One has a 50 GI top on it and one has a optics ready slide, RMR mounted, heavy recoil spring and guide, and a 9" Dasan barrel for 45 super. Both were bought with experimenting in mind but neither on have needed a trigger alteration. Guess I'm just one of the unwashed. Be Well, Rustyzipper.


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Originally Posted by bwinters

1) Is the low/left thing purely grip? I'd bet I have too much hand on the smaller Glock which is causing the low/left thing. Its only 1" low and left but it shouldn't be. The group size is good so whatever I'm doing, I'm doing consistently.
2) What are the aftermarket trigger choices? My plan for all my handguns is hunting/hiking/woods carry - which is to say they will see rain, mud, use. I'll stick with the OEM trigger if I risk losing reliability.
3) What upgrades should I consider with the 20? I think the Gen 4 guns have sufficient springs for Underwood/Buffalo Bore but some suggest stainless. What do you guys do with your 20's? BTW: I like the simplicity of the dot and U sight pattern. I find it easy to locate the front sight and re-acquire the target with that system. A fiberoptic may help if available.


I put at least 1,000 rounds per month through Glocks, so might as well throw my 2 cents in as well:

1) No most likely it's not a grip problem, that's trigger control. Glock triggers are a bit more challenging to master than most; best fix is to do a lot of dry fire, doing it right of course. The 9mm case on the front sight trick is good practice to get you started.

2) For the G20- a factory "-" (minus) connector, gen 3 trigger, and extra power trigger spring will make a big improvement. The 48 is a little different being gen 5 - the Ghost Pro connector made a big difference in my 43 (same action as your 48), but if you don't want to fit an overtravel stop use the Edge connector instead. In both guns, leave the striker springs alone.

3) The G20 can benefit from a 22-24 lb spring if you're using a steady diet of Underwood type loads. (The gen 4 is no exception.) Other than that, just shoot it. Don't bother swapping barrels, that's a common "upgrade" that mainly just lightens your wallet and is unneeded most of the time.
If you're serious about upgrading anything, have the slide milled for an RMR or DeltaPoint Pro and match it with a set of suppressor sights to cowitness.

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If the triggers don't smooth out to your liking after the aforementioned 500 rounds, I've used the Ghost standard 3 1/2 lb drop-in connector (the first one in the linked chart below) in a bunch of Glocks. They drop right in and work as advertised to lighten/smooth up the pull. That's the most I ever do to a Glock trigger. On my Gen 4 19, I didn't even need to do that. The trigger pull on it after a few hundred rounds is as good as my Gen 3 guns with the Ghost 3 1/2 lb connectors.

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Thanks Yon and jds. Trigger makes more sense. I do feel like I'm fighting it a bit.


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Low left, yep, me too, read right here from Bluedreaux, increase support hand grip to match strong hand, take to tremor, then back off to steady, hold and fire, I grabbed my Glock, some mags, ear plugs, and a cardboard box, ran out back, and by god, it works!


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Originally Posted by bwinters
Interesting I traded my RIA 10mm on the Glock 20. I'm eyeing the 45 ACP (21?). I'm also looking at a 17 for goofing around. If I shoot the 17 better than the 48, I'll likely sell the 48.

if you have the 20, just buy the upper for the 21, it will slide right in the 20 frame.


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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
Originally Posted by bwinters
Interesting I traded my RIA 10mm on the Glock 20. I'm eyeing the 45 ACP (21?). I'm also looking at a 17 for goofing around. If I shoot the 17 better than the 48, I'll likely sell the 48.

if you have the 20, just buy the upper for the 21, it will slide right in the 20 frame.


Didn't know that - thanks!


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