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Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Boxerdog] #14419907 12/31/19
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I briefly owned a GSP that a coworker couldn’t handle living in the city. It was a female that had several thousands poured into her for bird training.

The dog was absolutely beautiful, small in size, but still young. She looked like it was on roids. Big, defined, leaned out muscles, and tons of energy, very high strung.

I had 5 acres fenced with 6’ft high Australian fence wire. Plenty of room to roam, kept her outside - not in a kennel while I was at work, inside with the family at night.

That dog would climb the fence wire front paw, leg foot over and over then jump from the top out and run wild a few times each week. I’d sometimes get a call from a neighbor that saw her running loose. The first few times, I left work to run her down, only to find her either back on my property or sniffing around near by.

I liked the dog a lot, but the hardest thing was trying to understand the high strung behavior. It was like she could never seem to chill out, more of a frantic behavior than a hyper, needs to be worked type of identifier. Never seen that before...But, at the time, my experience was strictly Lab hunting dogs.

Finally, I decided before I lost her, or she got shot for trespass by a ranch hand. i took her to the breeder who trained her up and asked if she wanted her for a kennel bitch or to pour some work into and sell her at a later time as a ready for birds hunting dog. The trainer took her.

I was leary of the GSP breed after that experience for many years...I hunted over several during those years and never saw the same crazy behavior exhibited once.

I can honestly say, I love that breed of dog. I find them awesome both in how they look and work...I would even own one, if I was certain that weird high strung out, worrying type of behavior wasn’t inherent to this breed of dog.

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Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Boxerdog] #14420285 12/31/19
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Beaver,

Some hunting Buds have had them over the years, and I have yet to see one that wired. Without exception, they were all people Dogs that more or less craved the attention of their owners.

Another Bud, who trained Dogs and at one time had Dogs on the circuit, had a big Elhew Pointer named Jake. Jake had been thru a couple owners that couldn't handle him. Gary knows his Dogs and how to train them, but he met his match with Jake. He had the body of a superb athlete, along with a big heart a set of lungs to test it. Combined with a mind of his own, he was mostly untrainable. Jake for the most part had no attraction to people. He was placed on earth to satisfy his lust for Birds, wherever his body and heart would take him.

So no, all GSP are not like the one you had. But every hunting breed has a rogue that lives by their own rules.


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Originally Posted by battue
Beaver,

Some hunting Buds have had them over the years, and I have yet to see one that wired. Without exception, they were all people Dogs that more or less craved the attention of their owners.

Another Bud, who trained Dogs and at one time had Dogs on the circuit, had a big Elhew Pointer named Jake. Jake had been thru a couple owners that couldn't handle him. Gary knows his Dogs and how to train them, but he met his match with Jake. He had the body of a superb athlete, along with a big heart a set of lungs to test it. Combined with a mind of his own, he was mostly untrainable. Jake for the most part had no attraction to people. He was placed on earth to satisfy his lust for Birds, wherever his body and heart would take him.

So no, all GSP are not like the one you had. But every hunting breed has a rogue that lives by their own rules.




Bat,

I appreciate this information...The wife and I are in discussion about owning a bird dog for hunting and family enjoyment. I will definitely take a hard look at a GSP....😎


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Suggestion.

If you don’t mind a flusher, then perhaps look at a field breed English Springer. Easier to train, house Dog of the first order and travels easy in the car.


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Best hunting/house dog I’ve owned was a Springer Spaniel. Another small framed female, but a huge heart for hunting anything with feathers. She came to me at a smidge over 3 years old. Fully trained and a field trial blue and red ribbon winner in puppy class.

I never put a dime into her...I just hunted her, allowing her to mature on her own. Had her for 11 years. She passed at approximately 14 years of age.

Heart always trumped body size, imo. Watching “Flyer” make long water retrieves on Canadian Honkers was hilarious. Dog always looked like she was underwater swimming in with a fat goose.

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Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Boxerdog] #14430640 01/03/20
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When I was looking for a dog I came across a web page https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/braquedubourbonnais.htm

I read the dog has a On Off switch like no other dog I thought that would be awesome man was it true the kids call my dog white lightning and turbo Tazz when he was out side then at night when we bring him in the house the kids call him Tired Tazz as he makes one circle on his bed and out like a light.

From articial:
Brauqes are a medium-size hunting dog, with a great desire not only to hunt but to please you. They have an "on/off" switch like no other hunting dog that I have seen. The minute you release them in the field the hunting switch is flipped "on". When you get them home they flip that switch "off" and they are just as content to sit on the couch with you and watch a movie. They have a short, dense coat that dries in minutes and is easy to groom. Bourbonnais have a sweet personality and have a very soft temperament—they do not need a lot of corrections to train; you will get further with a soft voice and hand than you will with a firm voice and a heavy hand. While softer dogs are wonderful around the home they often take a little longer to train for hunting, but is well worth the time you put into them. While they are a hunting dog and like to run, a daily walk is fine for them."
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They look like a German Short hair on steroids stout little dogs at least the males jaws look way stronger than the Short hairs mine is a excellent hunter good luck in your search.

Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Fastback65] #14431470 01/03/20
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any firsthand real world experience with this breed? Ever hunt waterfowl and upland with one on the same day in sub zero temps?

40 years' experience raising and training hunting breeds and I know of no hunting breeds where a short walk suffices for exercise and training.



Originally Posted by Fastback65
When I was looking for a dog I came across a web page https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/braquedubourbonnais.htm

I read the dog has a On Off switch like no other dog I thought that would be awesome man was it true the kids call my dog white lightning and turbo Tazz when he was out side then at night when we bring him in the house the kids call him Tired Tazz as he makes one circle on his bed and out like a light.

From articial:
Brauqes are a medium-size hunting dog, with a great desire not only to hunt but to please you. They have an "on/off" switch like no other hunting dog that I have seen. The minute you release them in the field the hunting switch is flipped "on". When you get them home they flip that switch "off" and they are just as content to sit on the couch with you and watch a movie. They have a short, dense coat that dries in minutes and is easy to groom. Bourbonnais have a sweet personality and have a very soft temperament—they do not need a lot of corrections to train; you will get further with a soft voice and hand than you will with a firm voice and a heavy hand. While softer dogs are wonderful around the home they often take a little longer to train for hunting, but is well worth the time you put into them. While they are a hunting dog and like to run, a daily walk is fine for them."
Hunting Dogs

They look like a German Short hair on steroids stout little dogs at least the males jaws look way stronger than the Short hairs mine is a excellent hunter good luck in your search.

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Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Boxerdog] #14431947 01/03/20
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First hand is I have had my mutt for nine years one of the best dogs I have had great hunter. I would go to Arizona to a event the breeder put on and would be surrounded by brock's where we would do a hunt in planted field's not really my thing I like wild birds but I did get a good look at these dogs in action.

There is not a lot of these dog's in the states but well worth a look prices are not bad compared to other breeds.

Now if you are looking for sub zero I would not look at the Brock he is just like a German short hair.

I have had Weimaraner English pointer and Irish setter's. trained them all and all were good hunter's all of them a little different.
The Setter hated doves the Pointer was hard mouthed the Weimaraner was a little snippy around kids. I did like she was so loyal to me and would not listen to one command from the X lol.

As far as exercise goes I have no idea I have a two acre fenced yard he self exercised the kids called him white lightning as he streaked by lap after lap.

As far as the off switch in the paragraph I copied from the web page I gave the link for I can attest to , even as a pup he would come in and hit the rack that I was not use to with the other dogs I had.

Re: German short hair vs Vizsla [Re: Boxerdog] #14441019 01/06/20
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Perhaps relevant to what you are pursuing:
I recall a comparison (don't know how valid) that a weimaraner tended to stay w/in 600 meters while a viszla tended towards 400 meters. Never head similar comparison to GSPs.


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The few Vizslas I have met have been fine dogs. But I have met more good GSPs, just more out there. Had two GSPs ourselves, a male and a female. Male would range out much farther in the field unless you were firm on pulling him up short. On a leash he was just fine, not a puller or anything. The female naturally ranged forward at perfect shotgunning distance. Both terrific with the family--to include two infants--the female even protected our daughter once (male was deceased at that point, or the illegal would have bled even more). Also took the female GSP hog hunting. Not as a bay or catch dog, but just a dog to keep my daughter company. Female GSP was really old at the time, but had a wonderful time walking the fields and sitting with my daughter in a blind.

FIL had a couple more. He did not hunt them.

All the dogs were from families who bred a couple successful local hunting GSPs. All were good, healthy dogs, though I don't know how my FIL's would have done in the field.


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I am a GSP fan. Great hunting dogs and great family dogs too.

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