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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14461922 01/13/20
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Beretzs, you bet, i'll try to make the little bonded Nosler shoot in my Swede, not thinking it'll be too much trouble to rid 700 max yard vermin here on the farm with it.

Keith, Thanks again for the on the ground experience Sir.

Stick, my old 300 ran pretty well with your 280, grabbed my load book coming in from tha barn last night, my 300 ran 230 Berger OTM's to 2869, only rag holed 5 at 100 never stretched it.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14461926 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by beretzs
That’s excellent info Jordan. Thank you. That is plenty of digging for me on elk sized critters I normally hunt.



Damn right B, 4ft of moose would cover anything I'd ever do here, Thanks for that report Jordan.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14461930 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by beretzs
Sounds like a good set up Keith. I’m assuming you’re using 700’s as well? Those sound like good set ups for what you’re doing.

Gunner, apologies for mixing up your thread buddy!


Hell no buddy, ler er rip, I don't care if a thread I start drifts a hundred miles of topic, this, to 22LR to scopes and bullets all the way up to the 20/50 Anzio, it's all good, there may be some useful information some other reader is looking for. cool


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: joshf303] #14461980 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by joshf303
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
In that magazine, the CM will give all the OAL you need and a hair more powder capacity, multiple choices in quality brass and lots of affordable factory ammo.

Don’t be too quick to go with too long a freebore. Been plenty of barrels cut with too much. Give yourself a short enough freebore to chase the lands a bit as it erodes. It’s counterintuitive but the long nosed VLD bullets require less freebore than conventional bullets, not more. Dummy rounds with all the bullets you’re going to shoot is a good idea. Have your chamber based off the one with the shortest base-to-ogive measurement, giving yourself some to chase the lands.

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Very good advice there...

Here. Left to right, all with 147s at the shoulder junctions.

6.5x55 3.105
6.5x47L 2.825
6.5 CM 2.880
6.5 PRC 3.030
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


My bullet order will be in today, going to seat the three dummy rounds of each bullet just like you have these here for the Swede Josh, if they get here early enough, i'll get them and the rifle off to Mr. Feldkamp today, barrels already headed to him from Brunos. cool


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14462808 01/13/20
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That should be a heckuva set up Gunner. Did you decide to stick with the Swede as it is?


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14463651 01/13/20
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Originally Posted by beretzs
That should be a heckuva set up Gunner. Did you decide to stick with the Swede as it is?


Yessir, standard Swede Sir, thought is, fire forming, then trimming and loading again for a few more FPS is not worth the trouble in this case, shorter barrel life, etc.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14464765 01/13/20
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Makes sense to me!


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14465134 01/13/20
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Show nuff, the first hog I hit with that Swede will be in excess of 500 yards, they all have been, and regardless of which bullet I end up with, I'm going up there and finding that sombitch with a big knife in hand for a mountainside autopsy. smile

I have a funny feeling it may be the 150gr Matchking, we shall see.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14465775 01/14/20
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I have a very dear Aussie mate who built a rifle around the Barnes 210gn .338 X Bullet.
I called it the lifetime project as he was always doing something to it including engraving and gold inlays to the originally, .458 Super Grade action.

The Lifetime project didn't like that bullet, so after all these years is now a .358 RUM. He says he happy with it but..........


The Barnes X 400grainer was the very best of the best in .458 caliber but obviously more people made decisions from 2nd hand information otherwise the 400 grainer would still be on the shelves.
Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: AussieGunWriter] #14467339 01/14/20
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LOL Damn AGW, sometimes things have a funny way of panning.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14467362 01/14/20
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Alright, work day complete and so is a little shop fun time, dummy rounds made.

140gr RDF's at 3.070 coal
147gr ELD's at 3.105 coal
150gr SMK's at 3.120 coal

Best I can do here at the farm with a caliper says the RDF has the shortest base to ogive length by a rch at .740, 147 horn went .744, 150gr SMK went .770.

I'll be looking for 29-3000 fps with whichever bullet is most accurate, 28 inches of barrel and Retumbo should get it there, BR2's to get it lit, this is going to be a fun project, package will leave for 'Smiths tomorrow.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14467600 01/14/20
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Alright, work day complete and so is a little shop fun time, dummy rounds made.

140gr RDF's at 3.070 coal
147gr ELD's at 3.105 coal
150gr SMK's at 3.120 coal

Best I can do here at the farm with a caliper says the RDF has the shortest base to ogive length by a rch at .740, 147 horn went .744, 150gr SMK went .770.

I'll be looking for 29-3000 fps with whichever bullet is most accurate, 28 inches of barrel and Retumbo should get it there, BR2's to get it lit, this is going to be a fun project, package will leave for 'Smiths tomorrow.


Cartridge base to bullet ogive right? Measurement should be 2.xxx”. I use one of these but there are others.

https://www.sinclairintl.com/reload...-style-bullet-comparators-prod83792.aspx


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: Hondo64d] #14467806 01/14/20
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Hondo, no Sir, these measurements were from bullet bases to end of ogive, cartridge base to ogive with bullets seated with base of shank to base of neck were the same caliper on a bench top rudimentary way.

140 RDF 2.395
147 ELD 2.385
150 SMK 2.370

Thinking the SMK needs to be the one chambered for, it's the shortest and will give more working room for the other bullets, haven't even looked at the 156 Berger EOL, or big Matrix bullet.

The dummy's are being sent with bare bullets taped to the outsides for the 'Smith to put some real [correct] measurements before he starts cutting.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14469565 01/15/20
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Based on your measurements I’d also go with the SMK.

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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: Hondo64d] #14470226 01/15/20
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Yessir, Bud of mine that has all the fancy tools like the one you linked is out of state working, so I had to eyeball a caliper on a bench top, the 'Smith has the dummys as well as bare bullets in case he needs to make em up the way he likes, package is shipped, now the waiting begins.

Thanks for all the help Men.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14472108 01/16/20
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Smith will have barrel from Brunos, action and stock from me on Fri, he called last night, we went over the build, he said I'd have it in my hands in 6 weeks maximum, hell of a deal, I best get a scope ordered! cool


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And go shake that 8lb jug of Retumbo ; ]


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: gunner500] #14472538 01/16/20
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If you can find some RL26 that’d be a good one too! Heck, I’d bet with that long barrel your old H4831 will get some good speeds as well.


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Re: Rifle build around a bullet? [Re: beretzs] #14473402 01/16/20
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Originally Posted by beretzs
If you can find some RL26 that’d be a good one too! Heck, I’d bet with that long barrel your old H4831 will get some good speeds as well.


Thanks Buddy, i know where some 26 is, and have plenty of H-4831 and H-1000, was out casting 780 grain 50-90 Sharps paper bullets a minute ago, Retumbo jug feels like it's got a least 5lbs in it, so that's GTG. smile


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