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I am behind the curve with dialing and the Mil system and FFP scopes. But, I do see where it would definitely expand my shooting horizons if I learned how to use them in a hurry. So I bought a SWFA 3-9x42 HD FFP Mil scope and put it on a Tikka T3X Superlite 6.5 Creed for the grandkids and me to use for hunting our moose, caribou and black bears here in Alaska. I also bought a Bushnell LRHSi 4.5-18x44 and put it on a Tikka stainless CTR with a 24" barrel in 6.5 Creed. It is a range gun to me and away to learn to dial for distance.

My Alaskan hunting does not really require dialing as I have never shot over 400 yards in the last 55 years of moose, caribou and bear blasting. Almost all of it was done with Leupold "set & forget" scopes and a Duplex reticle. For most of the moose and bear hunting a German #4 or a Firedot #4 works well. Some range time teaches one where to hold the reticle out to 400 yards and a standing moose or caribou is a good sized target.

Leupold's B&C reticle is a good one for "set & forget" scopes in my opinion. There again some range time will teach hold over with ones chosen load and I recently put a VX3i 3.5-10x40 with the B&C reticle on my old Mod. 70 Featherweight 30-06 and I plan on launching the Barnes 175 grain LRX bullet as close to 2,800 fps mv as possible. If I am not happy with it at the range I will pick up another SWFA 3-9x42 for that old ought six. My custom Mod. 70 .338 Winny has a Nightforce 3-10 SHV with the Force Plex reticle and I ordered the ballistic tape from Kenton Industries so I can dial out to 500 yards if needed.

Any way, that Mil reticle on a FFP scope should allow using the reticle out to 300 yards in a hurry and dialing for any range past that if needed and time allows. Most of Alaska has antler size restrictions on bull moose, so blasting away at them with out a positive read on the brow tines and width is a good way to wish you had never pulled the trigger. I definitely believe an experienced dialer with a good FFP Mil scope has a broader array of tools in his box as the range increases.

My big LRHSi 4.5-18 weighs bout the same as the 3-12 LRHS and they pop up for sale here on the Classifieds every once in awhile. Darn things are heavy and for me and my Alaskan hunting the SWFA 3-9 or Nightforce 3-10 SHV is all the scope I would need power wise for any shot I would take on Alaska's big game. I don't ever plan on shooting black bears past 300 yards or brown bears much past 200 yards.

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Even if you don't dial, the 3-12 is a fantastic scope

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That’s why I like it. You can see the reticle at last legal light without having to turn the illum on.

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I've seen some pictures of that reticle lit up.. and it looks really fuzzy. Does the light wash out into the glass around it or does it have good contrast? Maybe it was onntoo high of a brightness setting? Or just a camera issue.


Bushnell did the illum on the LRTS/LRHS right. On its brightest setting it’s daylight visible. On its lowest setting it is barely visible. There are settings for every situation in between. But as said before, the reticle is visible enough to be used at last legal light even without the illum being turned on.

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
2 more from Doug showed up yesterday....

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Huntsman, nice scopes and rifles pic too, I bought one last night from Camerland, what height NF rings to you run on a rail with those 44mm's? I want to stay as low as possible.

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Dont you need to have the scope and rifle in hand to measure for
the corect height scope rings?


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Originally Posted by gunner500


Huntsman, nice scopes and rifles pic too, I bought one last night from Camerland, what height NF rings to you run on a rail with those 44mm's? I want to stay as low as possible.

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I use Badger standard height (.823) on a 20moa rail and still have plenty of room for bolt clearance. My tikka ejects into the windage knob, my fieldcraft does not.


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Thanks Jwood, i'll be running a 20 minute NF rail also.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
If you don't have expert advice here from others that have done it 100 times. smile



So what height would you suggest for an Xbolt with a 20moa rail. 44mm lrts..


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Originally Posted by Musicianized
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If you don't have expert advice here from others that have done it 100 times. smile



So what height would you suggest for an Xbolt with a 20moa rail. 44mm lrts..


LOL, I'm no expert, that's why I asked here too. smile


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If someone here has something that works, i'll be danged if i'll try to reinvent the wheel, i'll be happy to run with it and not waste time.


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I have Warne, ARC, EGW and XTR sig Lows on rails with the LRHS/LRTS's....

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Ordered one today. Great people to deal with. Was trying to order on my phone and between my phone and my fat fingers i had the order all messed up. Called them to straighten it out and Doug handled it with no issues. Friendly and helpful he tried to talk me into buying 2 of them but one is enough for now. Great folks.


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
I have Warne, ARC, EGW and XTR sig Lows on rails with the LRHS/LRTS's....


Thanks Huntsman, i'll order some NF lows, may have 'smith cerakote em FDE, however, your FDE scopes look just fine with black rings.


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Originally Posted by 7mmMato
Ordered one today. Great people to deal with. Was trying to order on my phone and between my phone and my fat fingers i had the order all messed up. Called them to straighten it out and Doug handled it with no issues. Friendly and helpful he tried to talk me into buying 2 of them but one is enough for now. Great folks.


You can order online now at the $599 price.


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Stoked to get both my my LRHS’s in. Got a 4.5-18 illuminated and a 3-12 non-illuminated. Figured commonality on my main hunting rifles wasn’t a bad thing!

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An early heads up for the members here. We will be announcing a "While Doug is at SHOT Show" sale on the Bushnell Elite Tactical LRTS 3-12x44 Flat Dark Earth - G3 for only $599.99
Right now you can call in, 516-217-1000, and mention this forum and we will honor the price as we have not officially announced this yet. This sale will run through Sunday 1/26 or until we are sold out


OK. This gives me enough of a reason to replace a couple of SWFA 3-15's (223AI and 308).


But damn. SWFA cut the 3-15's down so low, they may not be worth messing with selling. One of mine is FFP and one is SFP. I may keep the SFP to have in case I need it some time for a backup.


Did you order online or call?


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Ordered online when they were dropped to $599.


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