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I bought a new Toyota Highlander last year. Part of the deal is that it came with free scheduled maintenance for the first two years. So I just took it in for the first 5,000 mile/6 month checkup and learned that an oil change was not included. The manager said that Toyota has changed their policy to that oil changes now occur at 10,000 mile intervals. I know they use synthetic oil, but that seems like an awfully long interval especially for a new car. I'm considering changing it on my own, but maybe 10,000 is OK? I know things change. When I first started driving spark plugs weren't expected to last for more than about 30,000 miles. Anyone have thoughts on this?
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I push 10000 on the 2006 F150, Mobile 1, and a K&N filter.
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Depends on driving conditions. Every manual has normal and severe service tables.
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I do all of mine at 5K intervals with OEM oil filters and full synthetic oil of the appropriate wt. Runs about $30-$35 per vehicle except for my diesel.
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Depends on driving conditions. Every manual has normal and severe service tables. The correct answer. Everyone has their pet procedures though.
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2019 Tacoma and I did an oil change at 5000 miles but it was pretty dusty in Utah where I was. This time I will go 10000
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4000 on my dodge diesels, 3000 on my jeep.
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32.774 pages, minumum.
Ahem.
Anyway, Toyota told me the same thing in 2016 with my Camry. I've no doubt the full synthetic oils are better. I've also no doubt that Toyota & the dealers would like to save $. My gut told me they're betting that they can get the cars to the end of the factory warranty with 10K oil changes, and that's the end of what they have to stand behind.
You'll no doubt get lots of advice of what intervals to use. You're smart enough to know that highway miles are way easier on a car than city driving, and that short trips are hard on oil, especially in cold weather. Perhaps your Highlander has a GDI engine, and you're leery that might dilute the oil, so you go more conservatively on the OCI's. You could eyeball it. You could send samples of every batch to Blackstone for analysis. In the end, you'll pick a point on the spectrum where you feel most comfortable. And you'll be exactly right - for you.
After discussing it with my mechanic of 27 years, I settled on 7,500 mile intervals, paying for it myself at the mechanic when Toyota's "free maintenance" coupons wouldn't. I'll never know if I've been throwing $ away, but I figure the extra cost aint breaking me, and the peace of mind feels like a bargain.
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The manufacture of my vehicle say that under no condition shall exceed 8000.0 miles. This is a V8 HD truck using that 0W-40 Full SYN oil. I change the oil at 5000.0 miles because I tow a travel trailer and I operate in cold climate. Oil change cost is >$80.00 materials only. Maintenance cost is $0.0061/Mile
You can preform a simple test that will indicate how clean you oil is. Just put a drop of the hot oil on a clean white paper napkin. The stain on the napkin will show contaminate in the center and a cleaner ring around the outside. Fully contaminated oil will just have a dark spot.
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Does the Highlander have an oil life indicator program in the computer.
They are generally based on driving habits.
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Run the oil 7,500 mi. and get an oil test. That is the true answer. I have run my Amsoil for 46,000 miles with an oil filter change every 15,000. The oil was still good at 46,000 mi. but the numbers were getting a bit high. I went with Amsoil again and went 39,000 mi. and by then the test said it was 80% of the maximum allowed for oxidation so I changed it. You can so easily go 10,000 miles. My GMC diesel computer is like clock work, every 10,000 miles. Now I use Shell Rotella T6 and change every 15,000 or so but use a mobil 1 oil filter. Keep your air filter clean and you wont ever have a problem unless you are in dusty roads.
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If I felt the need, which I don't, to go 10,000 on any oil, I would at least change the filter at 5000.
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5k or 12 months on my BMWs, 7500 on my Cummins. Motul 5W40 in the newer Bimmers, PennGrade High Zinc 15W40 in the M635Csi, and Rotella in the Cummins.
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5,000 for the Nissan Pathfinder. 7,500 for the Ford SD Diesel.
Or at least that's the target. Fixin' to turn 100K on the SD Diesel.....and don't even want to think about a new one.
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10,000 highway miles, no problem.10,000 stop and go short trip miles I would be uncomfortable with. You could always pop for a 5000 mile change yourself and let them do the 10,000 mile one.
It is your investment. If you plan on longterm ownership, act accordingly.
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Again depends on driving, I do mine at 6000, but probably too soon. Changed lots of customers and would be good if they did it at 10,000. Saw too many going 20,000 plus on regular oil.
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My 19 Duramax diesel has the oil life gage on it. It goes below 20% left when I hit about 3000 miles. Warranty covers my oil changes and the dealer abides by the gage.
Shorter mileage spans between oil changes will never hurt you.Longer ones just might.
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I run Mobil 1 and Wix filters, change the filter at 5K, oil and filter at 10K.
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Full Synthetic, weight per engine requirements.
5,000 mi.
I'm sure others know as well.
Manufacturers change things such as oil ports etc. and have gone to THINNER oils --> Farther distance on changes.........
IMO, that increases wear.
YMMV
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