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Tell me more. I'm coming up blank. I've got a local archeology buddy who knows everything I've contacted. I'll report back....
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I have a place 100 miles southeast of you Gregg, between Tombstone and Douglas. Ive gathered quite a few artifacts over 50 years living down there, and I'd hazard one in ten points I have look to be the same material with the rest being either pure white material, almost looking like quartz, then some that are a mix of the clear/white and rusty red veins running thru them, then the classic black obsidian.
Lots of metates and manos, just found a nice metate while coyote hunting in November as a matter of fact and my first find of a pendant or amulet, made from turquoise, bout the size of your thumb nail, perfect hole drilled thru the top. Cool. Any analysis on mine based on what you've seen?
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volcanic basalt, workable material, has that dull, mafic metallic-iron look.
could always be quartzite too, but When you said no sandstone in the area, that makes me lean basalt.
basalt is mildly hard, the final edges would grounded sharp. Don’t think it flakes well hence grinding.
basing my hunch of what I can only see in the pic and also off where you found it.
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I’m gonna go with San Pedro style point, late archaic period 2500-3000 BC
And basalt will still knapp, it’s just some tough material.
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Hard to tell from the photo, but it looks quite thin? The points I have of that same looking material are pretty thick in the middle and the sides taper down as they near the outer edge. The stuff I find locally down here is Mogollon culture artifacts, up in your area, I suspect Hohokam?
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Went for a creek walk on Saturday. Found a few good ones. Buffler ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/LXPcD02z/7-BE3-D1-EF-4-F6-C-49-B8-A8-C9-F9-BEF1745564.jpg) Funky little side notch ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/Jz6CzkpB/D686-A11-C-FC43-4-A45-A56-D-C01308489-F00.jpg) And a perfect little Clovis ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/bvZcDw5V/07-B1-A9-B2-78-AB-47-A0-940-F-F64-E40-B5-F96-B.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/3wzMgH58/DE19-A6-B0-413-F-4-A24-A5-A9-232-C02-C9576-D.jpg) Found a handful of brokes and some scrapers and knives too but nothing really exceptional
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I would have pooped myself if I found a bison skull!!!!
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Looks exceptional to me. Cool!!
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If we were closer I’d bring you one Kaywoodie. I find them pretty regular at one place we hunt and don’t have shelf space for them anymore. I’ll have to find a pic of the huge bull I found last summer, 27” across the horns IIRC and completely intact down to the teeth.
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I would have pooped myself if I found a bison skull!!!! I was in Saskatchewan about 15 yrs ago and my son's found a skull sticking out of the river bank. The guy who ran the ferry there said a fellow found one earlier that day, I guess the herd try to cross a river and don't all make it, cool find. The one above looks like its got a bullet hole in it?
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Yesterday's heartbreaker. First of this shape I've found, and have found a couple hundred points in this spot over the last 10 years. Couldn't really find a definite example on projectilepoints.net closest I see is a Palmer? ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/118788.jpeg)
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Went for a creek walk on Saturday. Found a few good ones. Buffler Funky little side notch And a perfect little Clovis Found a handful of brokes and some scrapers and knives too but nothing really exceptional That Clovis is a mega find! Congrats! Hope the bison skull doesn't fall apart on you... I had a few that did that after being exposed to the air.
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If we were closer I’d bring you one Kaywoodie. I find them pretty regular at one place we hunt and don’t have shelf space for them anymore. I’ll have to find a pic of the huge bull I found last summer, 27” across the horns IIRC and completely intact down to the teeth. Damn! When archaeologist son was doing his internship at Texas a archaeological Research laboratory, about all he did for a whole year was organize and catalog bison bones. Apparently they had a mountain there to work with. LOL! He got real good a ID’ing bison bomes🤣. Thanks for the thought.
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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
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Here’s a pic of a couple kinda crude chert points, a baby buffler horn, and a heartbreaker of a broken Clovis. The partial Clovis has the finest work of anything I’ve ever found on it, really made me sick to find out it was broke. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/rmbjX2b8/2-E290-A82-AEBF-46-EF-8185-B637951-BD744.jpg)
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And a couple of good buffalo for Kaywoodie. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/MH0Ts5G8/70170350-16-F9-42-BC-8-BD0-49-C94-BA5-D3-EA.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/qRxH9wGw/883080-BB-25-D0-43-A4-A8-CE-68-A435914-D88.jpg) The second one is a real monster that measures a shade over 27” across the horns.
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Went for a creek walk on Saturday. Found a few good ones. Buffler Funky little side notch And a perfect little Clovis Found a handful of brokes and some scrapers and knives too but nothing really exceptional Holy schitt!!! Awesome clovis!!!!!!
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Yeah it was a good birthday present to myself. I’m getting a pretty good collection of paleo stuff lately. Not a bunch but good ones. In the past year I’ve found a G10 beveled Dalton, an 8 or 9 brown caramel flint Scotsbluff, and the little Clovis. Life’s good.
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