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Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.


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You might try a .244 or a .245.


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Originally Posted by Elliot
Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.

Depends on the rifle. How it fits, how it carries, how it shoots, how it looks.

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If you handload and want to build, I'd say a .25 Souper or Humdinger and use the same brass.

Otherwise, the 6.5 Creed....


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Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.

That is entirely subjective.

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.270 winchester


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The 30-06 is a very good choice.


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Originally Posted by Elliot
Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.


Elliot,

First and foremost practice and shooting rounds downrange is what makes a person a deadly deer hunter. The 243 is far better served for that venture than either the 270 or 308 and kills deer with ease.

A case in point would be the bear shot with 338 win mag gets away thread. Most people I know who use the 338 win mag shoot less than 20 rounds for practice and than go hunting because there a recoiling SOB and unpleasant to shoot. Basically what I'm saying is a man with a 243 and 1000 rounds downrange in practice is far deadlier than a man with a 338 win mag with 20 rounds of practice. Give a well practiced man your 243 and he would kill that same bear that got away 100 out of 100 times

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Originally Posted by Trystan
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For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.


Elliot,

First and foremost practice and shooting rounds downrange is what makes a person a deadly deer hunter. The 243 is far better served for that venture than either the 270 or 308 and kills deer with ease.

A case in point would be the bear shot with 338 win mag gets away thread. Most people I know who use the 338 win mag shoot less than 20 rounds for practice and than go hunting because there a recoiling SOB and unpleasant to shoot. Basically what I'm saying is a man with a 243 and 1000 rounds downrange in practice is far deadlier than a man with a 338 win mag with 20 rounds of practice. Give a well practiced man your 243 and he would kill that same bear that got away 100 out of 100 times


Thanks for your point of view, makes a whole lot of sense. I will really think about that. I never really saw it that way.


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.243 win is my favorite deer rifle. If your looking for a little more power but lower recoil I would go 25-06 or 270. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Elliot
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Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.


Elliot,

First and foremost practice and shooting rounds downrange is what makes a person a deadly deer hunter. The 243 is far better served for that venture than either the 270 or 308 and kills deer with ease.

A case in point would be the bear shot with 338 win mag gets away thread. Most people I know who use the 338 win mag shoot less than 20 rounds for practice and than go hunting because there a recoiling SOB and unpleasant to shoot. Basically what I'm saying is a man with a 243 and 1000 rounds downrange in practice is far deadlier than a man with a 338 win mag with 20 rounds of practice. Give a well practiced man your 243 and he would kill that same bear that got away 100 out of 100 times


Thanks for your point of view, makes a whole lot of sense. I will really think about that. I never really saw it that way.


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It should be part of the Bill of Rights that everyone should own a rifle chambered in 30-06.

If that is too much, then a 6.5 CM, 270 Win, or 308 Win. Ammo is everywhere, and they are all good performers.


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Originally Posted by Trystan
Originally Posted by Elliot
Originally Posted by Trystan
For deer only anywhere you go from a 243 is a downgrade.


You think a .308 or 270 would be a downgrade from a .243 ? Can you tell me why is that ? Thanks.


Elliot,

First and foremost practice and shooting rounds downrange is what makes a person a deadly deer hunter. The 243 is far better served for that venture than either the 270 or 308 and kills deer with ease.

A case in point would be the bear shot with 338 win mag gets away thread. Most people I know who use the 338 win mag shoot less than 20 rounds for practice and than go hunting because there a recoiling SOB and unpleasant to shoot. Basically what I'm saying is a man with a 243 and 1000 rounds downrange in practice is far deadlier than a man with a 338 win mag with 20 rounds of practice. Give a well practiced man your 243 and he would kill that same bear that got away 100 out of 100 times

The chain of logic, on its face, makes sense. The issue with it is, not everyone (I'd argue most) that is utilizing the .243 is going to put in the time/rounds to get to that level of proficiency. The person that will would likely also do so with a 7/08, .308, 6.5 etc.
For the guy that is going to gain the requisite proficiency, headstamps mean schitt (seems as if that's been pointed out prior). For those who won't, margins of error increase.

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Originally Posted by Dobegrant
.270 winchester

Arguably the best choice ever for a dedicated deer rifle.


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Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
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.270 winchester

Arguably the best choice ever for a dedicated deer rifle.


For whitetail at under 50 yards from a deerstand?

I can think of at least a dozen cartridges I’d chose in that scenario over the 270.



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Originally Posted by Elliot
Hi guys the first rifle I ever bought is a 243 and this is my all-around rifle, I use it for everything, but I'm thinking about upgrading caliber, no I don't need nothing for big game, I just need a good deer caliber. Any suggestions will be very appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Yes sir, I'll be honest I just want another rifle with a step up in caliber, but yes, absolutely. If you dont put the time ,you won't acquire proficiency. That been said I have done some soul searching and I will put more time with my .243. Thank for that advice.


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Ought to be clear about what you want from any "step up".

Cuz it's not killing power, at least not for FL whitetails.

In some venues a reliable blood trail, via two leaky holes, can keep you from having a really bad day. You cannot get that from a .243 or .22 CF. Sometimes is not the same as usually.....or always.

Anyway, a .308 Win or .30-06 is a step up.

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