Hey all, I am looking to replace the scope on my .223. It currently has a Vortex 6-18x44 AO on top. I like the 18x for shooting buck toothed prairie varmints but it’s too much magnification for Coyotes. I typically leave it on 10x. The rifle is zeroed at 225 yards, shooting the 60 VMAX or the 60 Horn Sp. Loads are right at 3050/3100 FPS.
The issue I’m having is the dogs are hanging up at 300-400 yards at times. 300 is OK as that’s only six inches of drop, but farther out I can’t use the BDC unless I crank it to 18x. The scope has capped turrets with zero reset but no time to dial shots by the time I take the cap off, etc. The gun is a heavy barrel Howa 1500, so weight of optic not a huge deal. I was thinking of going to an exposed turret scope as I do a lot of cranking when shooting PDogs, and I shoot a lot of them. I’m cranking ele and wind usually as the wind never quits here either.
What I’d really like to do is get a 8-9 twist .22-250, .220 Swift or even a .22 Creed so I don’t have to think so much about drop and wind to a certain range of course. Thoughts? I’ve considered punching it out to .223AI.
I was considering the Diamondback tactical 4-12x40 or SWFA fixed 10x. The Vortex will cost less obviously. I have a Leupold Vx3i CDS on my 7RM which I really like.
Your scope is not the problem. You have a varmint rifle/scope setup and not a coyote setup.
I would be more concerned about 6x low end as I have had coyotes get close and not able to find them at 6x (I had a 6x at that time)
I have run Leupold 2.5-8x36 and 3.5-10x40 on my coyote rifles which are a Kimber 84M Varmint 22-250 which is cerecoted and bedded in a Wildcat fibreglass stock. 55gr VMax driven about 3700. Sighted in about 2" high at a hundred. Gave a coyote about 4" of elevation above its back and killed him with a low chest shot. The scope was set on 4or5 power. Other rifle was a model 7 Predator in 17Fireball.
You carry a coyote rifle way more than you shoot it. I am currently building a 17 Remington on a 84M Montana. It will be my secondary coyote rifle.
I found the difference between the 22-250 and my previous 223 to be marked. Now the VMax is superior to the the bullets I had in the 223.
I would get a sporter weight 22-250 or 22Creedmoor in a fast twist (or not), put a scope with no higher than about 4 on the low end. You decide whether 12, 14, 16 on the high end. I would forget dialing, as I think the coyote can move positions faster than most people can dial. I've been watching big Al Morris of FoxPro use his Nightforce. I don't think i miss anymore than he does and i don't dial. Sometimes less is more.
I should’ve been more clear that I don’t plan to dial shots on Coyotes unless there’s one sitting still long enough to do it. I agree that the gun is better as a Prairie Dog gun but I need to make it work for both for the time being.
It’s very open country so finding them in the scope isn’t much of a worry.
A SS 3x9 would work good for you. Call with it on 6x most of the time and when a coyote holds up at distance either use your mil quad reticle for hold over and wind, or dial for elevation and hold for wind. Your choice. I kill a lot of coyote s that hang up between 400 and 500 yds.
There have been several good suggestions so far. There is an easier remedy in light of the fact you have a BDC reticle. You often read people's assertion that a BDC reticle is only good for being set at one power. That is a misunderstood half-truth. The BDC reticle can be used at any power setting. It's just that the corresponding ranges of bullet impact are different at every power setting. Get the proper ballistic information for two different power settings and you've solved your problem. Run your information through a ballistic program which has your reticle and you will see the different yardages for points of impact at different power settings.
The major, and I mean major drawback of my above-mentioned solution is a precludes the need to purchase another rifle/scope setup. We don't always NEED an excuse to buy; but, it's nice to have one.
Last edited by TheBigSky; 01/24/20.
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A SS 3x9 would work good for you. Call with it on 6x most of the time and when a coyote holds up at distance either use your mil quad reticle for hold over and wind, or dial for elevation and hold for wind. Your choice. I kill a lot of coyote s that hang up between 400 and 500 yds.
Following this advice has worked well for me. That is the most useful and reliable scope I have ever owned.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
I put together a 22-250AI using a T&L action, Douglas 1-12 Jewel trigger and topped it with a Nightforce 2.5x10 with MOAR reticle and it is working out nicely. I mainly use it for shooting coyotes the are being pursued by dogs. The dogs are beagles so the coyotes don't have to move very fast to stay ahead but they rarely stop so most of the shots are in motion, the MOAR combined with the velocity of the 55G VMAX really helps with getting the lead and then the elevation if I miss and they switch to high gear. Take em if you want a swift I have a Barrel brass and dies I can set you up.
Somewhere near a 4.5-14 is where I’d be, quality & clear is nice. I don’t care for ‘busy’ reticles.
My partner took a guy coyote hunting a few years back. He showed up with his higher magnified, scoped, 22-250. When the coyote surprised him at 30 yards he didn’t have a chance, thick cover.
We usually have semi-auto shotguns with ‘T’ shot, plug removed.
I see you hunt in open areas. When I do, a scoped 243 is my choice.
I bought. Diamondback Tactical 4-12x40. It has the VMR1 MOA reticle. Even I can figure that on 6x 1 MOA dots are 2. This will also allow for easier dialing on p dogs with the tactical turrets.
Still want a faster .22 but smart money would be a factory 9 Twist .22-250 (Bergara) and punch it to AI to beat the Swift. Wouldn’t have the nolstalgia of a Swift though.
I shoot every chambering cited and more than a bunch that ain't. The projectile selection is HILARIOUS,as is the scope "advise" from The Droolers. Hint. Laughing!
If/when forced to suffer Retard RPM on a .378" boltface,the 50'Max is tough to whoop and upon the platform cited,3500fps is a breeze. A 6x MQ will connect all dots and then some,while getting POA/POI aligned from the muzzle,to the Transonic Slip,by simply looking through the fhuqking thing. I'm at ease with a Utilitarian 200yd zero and a 10x will smoke you hard. Hint. Read that again. now one more time. Re-Hint.
All things Reupold are a fhuqking joke,starting with the HILARITY of CDS and boiling down to dismal zero retention and "tracking". That not even counting the SFP Goat Fhuqk and schit Reticles. 4.5-14X's are especially fhuqking JUNK. Hint. Laughing!
Though in fairness,the 4.5-14x 30mm Reupolds are handy for sumptin'. Hint. LAUGHING!
Of course the 6X MQ do thangs,that Reupold cain't,which is retain zero,track and subtend. Hint. LAUGHING!
1000 Words on the ilk. Hint.
You CLUELESS Fhuqks are a hoot!
Bless your hearts for tryiung though.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
For starters I know nothing about varmint hunting. IMO this is a good set up for all around hunting and shooting. https://www.leupold.com/reticles/reticle-boone-crockett-7 When things are happening fast I'm a big believer in KISS. The most important thing is to know your rifle and where it shoots. I site dead on at 200 yds, and when the shot is far I use the second crosshair, when it's really far use the third crosshair. It's nice to be able to range, focus and calculate, but that will cost you a lot of opportunities for a shot.
For starters I know nothing about varmint hunting. IMO this is a good set up for all around hunting and shooting. https://www.leupold.com/reticles/reticle-boone-crockett-7 When things are happening fast I'm a big believer in KISS. The most important thing is to know your rifle and where it shoots. I site dead on at 200 yds, and when the shot is far I use the second crosshair, when it's really far use the third crosshair. It's nice to be able to range, focus and calculate, but that will cost you a lot of opportunities for a shot.
True Schit,
You "know" nothing,about fhuqking ANYTHING and your Retardation is simply fhuqking MAGNIFICENT in it's grandeur...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
An archaeic reticle,that is non-lineal in subtension by literal "design",coupled with a SFP "view" and an erector that cain't bridge said gaps,is THE very definition of a Goat Fhuqk. Read that again. Now one more time. HINT. LAUGHING!
I especially enjoyed "site","far" and "really far"...almost as much as "range","focus" and "calculate",you Amazingly Stupid CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint. LAUGHING!
Hardly "daunting" to shoot an etched lineal reticle,aboard a platform that retains zero and tracks in accords to same,as per whim. You know,all the things Reupold CAN'T "do". Hint. LAUGHING!
I hear through The Grapevine,that one can slam DOPE in an Ocular,so it too stares one in the face,to RAPIDLY contend distance,atmospherics and victim movement. Hint. LAUGHING!
Do tell which Dog Schit Rifle,you've got The Goat Fhuqk Glass mounted upon and muse it's Chambering and Fodder,just to take your STUPIDITY to the next level. Dare ya'...because I ASSURE you it will be funnier than fhuqk,if you TRY. You can't even site(note the difference) the subtension of a given magnificiation,at a given range. Hint. LAUGHING!
You Drooling Fhuqktards never disappoint,by simply doing your BEST. HINT.
Bless your heart,for being in soooooooo far above your pointy head,that you've less than ZERO inkling. gals who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will always be best served by asking questions,rather than trying to give "answers".
HINT.
Fhuqking Reupold!!!!
Laughing!
Wow +P+++!!!!.........................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
'Twere a nice atmosphere to see trace/impact and dabble subtension more than a smidge,into distant Zipcodes.
Hint.
Laughing!................
Truly Schit,
Now what were the "odds",that besides being an Absolute CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt? Hint. Congratulations?!?
You are talking out your ass,about things you've never see,let alone done and are HILARIOUSLY Light Years in over your pointy fhuqking head. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. LAUGHING!
The ONLY fhuqking thing you "shoot",is your mouth and Imagination. Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining...as that is THE Window Licking Trifecta!
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Always heard a rifle is only as good as the scope. And since none of those rifles have Leopold scopes on them my guess is mommy must of bought the rifles to keep her baby out of trouble.
You be sure to use your Butterfly Net,to capture more of your Delusions,but you'll haveta' pardon my shooting as you DREAM...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
In fairness,I've not seen more than (3) NIB Reupolds puke on a single outing. Hint. LAUGHING!
Their Spotting Scopes are killer too! Hint. LAUGHING!
The only thing you "shoot",is your mouth and Imagination,you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk. Hint. Laughing!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Don't be so hard on yourself,as your STUPIDITY is/was no "secret" and only a "surprise" to you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You were stating earlier,how a SFP Brokedick Reupold with CDS,was farrrrrrrr too "technical" for you,as you are unable to substantiate subtension requisites,through out it's zoom range. Also fhuqking HILARIOUS,that you were/are afraid to cite said Goat Fhuqk Rifle Platform's particulars,as if even someone as AMAZINGLY Fhuqking Stupid as you,KNOWS better than to even "try". I "wonder" why?!? Hint. LAUGHING!
Do tell,what sorta platforms your Imagination and Pretend find such thangs "suited" to,as per your HILARIOUS version(s) of "knowledge","experience" and "results". Hint. LAUGHING!
Rimfires perhaps? Hint. LAUGHING!
Few things funnier,than a CLUELESS Whining [bleep],that just "happens" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot,talking out her ass. You are doing "GREAT"! Hint. Laughing!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining,you MAGNIFICENT Whining Clueless Fhuqk.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
If you need to thaw out and quit running those flabby lips trying to stay warm John puts on a good match. I don't need to cuss, brag or beat my chest those squirrel guns look to be really nice. I'll stick with my original suggestion that a https://www.leupold.com/reticles/reticle-boone-crockett-7 Will work just fine at the ranges the OP was concerned about. Reading comprehension isn't very important to those that enjoy talking to themselves.
Hey all, I am looking to replace the scope on my .223. It currently has a Vortex 6-18x44 AO on top. I like the 18x for shooting buck toothed prairie varmints but it’s too much magnification for Coyotes. I typically leave it on 10x. The rifle is zeroed at 225 yards, shooting the 60 VMAX or the 60 Horn Sp. Loads are right at 3050/3100 FPS.
The issue I’m having is the dogs are hanging up at 300-400 yards at times. 300 is OK as that’s only six inches of drop, but farther out I can’t use the BDC unless I crank it to 18x. The scope has capped turrets with zero reset but no time to dial shots by the time I take the cap off, etc. The gun is a heavy barrel Howa 1500, so weight of optic not a huge deal. I was thinking of going to an exposed turret scope as I do a lot of cranking when shooting PDogs, and I shoot a lot of them. I’m cranking ele and wind usually as the wind never quits here either.
What I’d really like to do is get a 8-9 twist .22-250, .220 Swift or even a .22 Creed so I don’t have to think so much about drop and wind to a certain range of course. Thoughts? I’ve considered punching it out to .223AI.
I was considering the Diamondback tactical 4-12x40 or SWFA fixed 10x. The Vortex will cost less obviously. I have a Leupold Vx3i CDS on my 7RM which I really like.
You are a Day Dreaming Do NOTHING Dumbfhuqk...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!
I enjoy you talking out your ass,you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking CLUELESS Schit. The Reupold B&C Reticle is beyond your exceedingly HILARIOUS "means","abilities" and "comprehension" and all you could do with same,is lick both ends. Hint. LAUGHING!
Funnier than fhuqk,that you "think" Stupidity is a "choice",as it is a plight and few are more starkly stricken than you. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. LAUGHING!
Weather is a might tough,with 50mph winds currently,but managed to run some 90gr Beer Cans and their .585BC through their paces,to the 900yd line. Hint. LAUGHING!
Now you can say you've "seen" one,you VERY "lucky" kchunt. Hint.
LAUGHING!
You Drooling CLUELESS Lying Fhuqktards are a hoot!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining,you MAGNIFICENT Whining Clueless Fhuqk.
Hint.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
The yellow looks a little queer, hope it's just the color. 280 is my go to caliber. Why such a heavy squirrel bullet? A 105 VDL in 6mm will eat it's lunch every time.
The yellow looks a little queer, hope it's just the color.
Truly Schit,
Now what were the "odds",that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk and a Lying Piece Of fhuqking Schit,that you also burst outta closets with your Homoerotic Fantasies...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!
Weren't my intent to horn you up,but there's no curtailing your Wanton Man Lust. Hint. LAUGHING!
Krieger 7.7" 22-250AI. Hint
Mainstream 8" 264 Kreedmire. Hint.
Might be a Savage,but prolly isn't. Google it. Hint.
Could be a Mossberg,but prolly isn't. Google it. Hint.
For split ends. Hint.
If only for starters. Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining,you MAGNIFICENT Whining Clueless Fhuqk.
Hint.
Laughing!.........
Oh my,what were the "odds" that The Lying Kchunt changed her reply?!? Hint.
LAUGHING!!!
For starters..."280" isn't a caliber. Hint. LAUGHING!
I'm fairly certain 90's are lighter than 105's,while having a vastly superior BC and a greater muzle velocity,which equates to flatter trajectories,less wind drift and higher impact velocities,amongst other Factoids. Hint. LAUGHING!
There's no such thing as a "VDL" in any bore size. Nor is there a .243" 105,that can keep pace with a .224" 90gr Beer Can,let alone "eat it's lunch". Hint. LAUGHING!
Your INCREDIBLE Fhuqking Stupidity,is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Don't be so hard on yourself,you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
No need to fly outta yet another closet,with your Man Lust Wanton Fantasies...you poor poor(literally) Whining kchunt. Hint. LAUGHING!
You two Fhuqktards bolted together,couldn't summons a FIRST Fhuqkiong Clue,but fortunately Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Don't be so hard on yourself,you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
No need to fly outta yet another closet,with your Man Lust Wanton Fantasies...you poor poor(literally) Whining kchunt. Hint. LAUGHING!
You two Fhuqktards bolted together,couldn't summons a FIRST Fhuqkiong Clue,but fortunately Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
LAUGHING!..............
I already came to the conclusion that two of you wouldn't make one dumbass. But through my years I've learned that no matter how stupid you think someone is, chances are that you can learn something from them.
Don't be so hard on yourself,you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
No need to fly outta yet another closet,with your Man Lust Wanton Fantasies...you poor poor(literally) Whining kchunt. Hint. LAUGHING!
You two Fhuqktards bolted together,couldn't summons a FIRST Fhuqkiong Clue,but fortunately Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
LAUGHING!..............
I already came to the conclusion that two of you wouldn't make one dumbass. But through my years I've learned that no matter how stupid you think someone is, chances are that you can learn something from them.
He wouldn't run that sausage washer like that to our faces. Regular ol Rambo on the www though.
I don't "think" you are an AMAZINGLY Stupid Fhuqk,I KNOW you are and those differences are stark...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You are a typical Pavement Pounding Whiner,who's read a magazine or two in her version of "life" and "thinks" she has a clue,which couldn't be further from the Truth. The only thing you "shot" are your mouth and Imagination,though you've an incredibly long list of very WELL founded Insecurities,to "compliment" your Mind Numbing STUPIDITY. Hint. Laughing!
Bless your heart,for "thinking" otherwise,you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit.
As an aside,you were talking how 280 is your favorite "caliber",DO "expound",mainly because it will be funnier than fhuqk if you try.
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massage 2 or 3,
I'm better in person and you'd simply nod your head in agreement,as your Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude was illuminated in the flesh,because it could go no other way...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
It's your Imagination however,be sure to Pretend with it as you MUST and the last thing I'd wanna do is take that from you,if only because it's ALL that you "have" and that'd be mean. Hint. LAUGHING!
To obliviously quantify perspective,mebbe mention what you "do" for a "living",that fuels your Whining Melting Snowflake Routine in sucha manner,you Whining CLUELESS Kchunt. Hint. LAUGHING.
Bless your heart,you "hard charging" gal you.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Your right, but even a dumbass knew what I meant. What is the proper name of the caliber, 7mm Express or 280 Rem?
Truly Schit,
Don't be so hard on yourself,in fairness you are actually a MUCH Dumber Fhuqk than you realize and by a margin you cannot even begin to fhuqking fathom the magnitude of...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
The caliber is ".284",which is a boresize,if only obviously(to everyone but you). 7mm Express is a cartridge chambering and 280 might be too,depending upon what your Retardation is trying to align. In no particular order,there is 280 Rimless Ross,280 Rimless Jeff',280 Flanged NE and 280 Rem...of course not counting Wildcats. Hint. LAUGHING!
Now you be sure to "brazenly" poke a oar in the water,pinpoint your Dumbfhuqktitude and I'll happily rub your nose in your STUPIDITY and make it look easy,mainly because it is(for me). Mebbe dangle a pic,for MAXIMUM Fhuqking Hilarity?!? Muse receiver/stock/trigger particulars,take a stab at RPM,Freebore and COAL,then HILARIOUSLY jaunt towards bases/rings/glass,if only to save the best JOKE for last. Then say sumptin' about boolits. Hint. LAUGHING!
I gotta go Castin' & Blastin',while you TRY to summons the courage requisite,to grab slack on the rope and TRY yet again. Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining,you MAGNIFICENTLY Whining Clueless Fhuqk.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
My barrel has 280 Rem engraved on it. You'd have to be a real dumbass to go into the hardware store and ask for a box of 284 ammo and think you'd end up with a box of 280 Remington ammo. KISS is for normal people, but some folks just like kissing azz more, enjoy yourself. Just like the scope the OP was inquiring about KISS, normal people don't have yellow tape and little yellow books with them when they go hunting. But most are smart enough to know all you need is a Leupold range finder and Leupold BC scope to hit anything within 500 yds.
There is NO need to reiterate your fhuqking STUPIDITY,as it is beyond OBVIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Joe Average sure in the fhuqk,is not anywhere near "bright",as you eloquently attest,on accident. Hint. LAUGHING!
Do tell about "your" 280 Remington chambered rifle and the ammo you buy for it,which swoons you in sucha manner. Do tell about the mounting system and glass,if only to go FULL Retard. Hint. LAUGHING!
I don't shoot "much" in the .284" bore size,especially in S/A. Hint.
LAUGHING!
Or in L/A either. Hint. LAUGHING!
Pardon a "Rite In The Rain" whipping your ass in such GLORIOUS fashion,but they've loonngggggg been a Skookum means of collecting DOPE,so it can be affixed the rifle proper. I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that something so simplistic,TOTALLY stumps you. Now do tell,how you use the "magic" Reupold B&C Reticle,in conjunction with your "heralded" 280 Remington,for even more fhuqking HILARITY. Hint. LAUGHING!
If only in fairness,Reupold has never made a LRF worth a fhuqk and still don't. I enjoy how amazingly fhuqking STUPID you are,so do "tell" me "more". hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Whining,you MAGNIFICENTLY Whining Clueless Fhuqk.
As an aside,the weather remains tough. Nice 50/50 rain/snow mix and gusts past 50mph+,to keep the dust down.
Pardon laminated RITR paper being affixed to the stock,with 2000yd DOPE,as I know how that very deeply troubles your Retardation,you AMAZINGLY Stupid Fhuqk.
Ooooopsie!
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massage 2 or 3,
I get it,tha you are a Brokedick Whining Bitch,but don't be so hard on yourself...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that even someone as fhuqking STUPID as you,KNOWS better than to try and muse ANY rifle "particulars". Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute",you Window Licking CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for lying,Crying and Trying.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Stumpy only bothers anyone who takes him seriously...
Plenty of other folks like him in the world, whose lives are a train wreck and they have plenty of time on their hands and access to the internet...where they can be a hero in their delusions.. guys like Stumpy either die by cirrhosis or suicide when drunk one night...so be easy on him... you don't want to be blamed for the latter...
Guy spends less time sober than not...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that you default to your Homoerotic Fantasies...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You can almost keep your Emotions in check. ALMOST. What do you "do" for a "living" again? Cite the 7-11 you work at and I'll swing by and watch you try to break a $100 bill,then you can at least say you've "seen" one. Hint. LAUGHING!
Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Trying.
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Shefire,
Do not "forget" that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery and ain't it VERY "surprising",that you respond to Homoerotic Fantasy...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!
Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some,as you Window Licking CLUELESS Kchunts talk out your ass and Meltdown. Hint. LAUGHING!
Few things funnier,than an Opiate Addled Candy Striper,bursting through yet another closet,so she can call a Bullet Manufacturer and reiterate her STUPIDITY obliviously,as steaks swelter in the sun. HINT. LAUGHING!!!
Bless your heart,you poor poor(literally) CLUELESS fhuqk.
Hint.
LAUGHING!....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
The FF is superior for Utility,though I only have 80 or so of 'em.(grin)
As Variables go,the Bushy(s) do some nice thangs. I don't care for the G2 reticle,but the G3 and especially in LRTSi(Illuminated),is rather good. Tough to get pissed at the locking windage turret and/or the elevation's OEM mechanical zero stop. Hint.
I prefer rear parallax,if only because it isn't obtrusive,or able to be moved unwanted. The FF erectors CRUSH the Bushy,in total travel,but they crush everything. Hint.(grin)
Bushy Illumination,is better than SWFA's 5-20X's lighting. I prefer the 3-12x zoom range and largely disfavor the 4.5-18x Bushys,mainly because I got them too. Hint.
It is funnier than fhuqk,to hear a CLUELESS Fhuqk "extoll" Reupold B&C Reticle "virtues",if only because there are NONE. Same goes the Reupold BDC/CDS Goat Fhuqks. THE key to POA/POI intersections,are an erector and reticle that speak the same angular lineal measurement language. Reupold botches that fhuqking HORRIBLY. Hint.
So coming full circle,the Bushy '12x LRTSi do connect alotta Variable dots and crushes all things Reupold and most everything NightFarce. In current pricing structure,they bring alotta Bang for the Buck,if one loses a bet and hasta' go Variable. I bought more than a few,just for Giggles and due the fact,that I've more than one rifle and it's often intellesting to extrapolate different glass,upon like platforms. Case in point,the SWFA 3-9x MQ,as I cain't suffer it. Too fickle,no parallax and slower to press into service. Hint.
For a Utility Rifle at a 1:1 ratio,I want the 6x MQ...mainly because I shoot it all and then some.
Hint.............(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Hey little buddy, I hope you are well. One suggestion. Have the guy who narrated this video do your typing for you. He is understandable. Be well.
Originally Posted by Big Stick
_________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
After 6 pages of blabber the suggestion of a 1-4x20mm isn't bad, The FOV is large and staying on a running coyote pretty easy and enough room to spot an opening ahead of him for a shot. Have one pop up at your shoelaces and he's a dead dog 300 yards on 4x is still a chip shot. Feel like your limiting yourself with a 1-4, 2-10x40 0r 2.5-10x40 with a BDC will get you to 400 with ease. I find a scope with a minimum of a 40' FOV on the bottom end to be a pretty good predator hunting scope for most situations. Keep it on the bottom power and largest FOV for those coyotes that just seem to appear out of nowhere and if they are out aways you can turn the scope up. Rule of thumb " There is always time to turn a scope up, never time to turn it down".
Most of my coyote hunting rifles wear 1.5-6x40mm scopes, my combo guns 1-4x20mm, I do have a couple that have 2.5-8/10's on them but rarely take them out.
1.5-6x40mm Burris
1.5-6x40mm Meopta
1-4x20mm on combo gun
2.5-8x?mm old Baush & Lomb
Out to 400 yards shooting heavies out of a fast twist 22-250/220 Swift isn't going to give you any advantage, a 50gr NBT out of a 22-250 at 400 is deadly on coyotes and very flat shooting.
I agree a 50 with the gas pedal floored is not a bad way to go with either the 22-250 or the Swift. I like a straight 6X on my calling rifles. Some form of BDC or mildot reticle.
You can have your straight six on a calling gun, I think they suck donkey balls.....
Burris 4.5-14 in either the Fullfield II or the E1 flavor.
For a 223, I'd opt for the MSR personally and take advantage of the ballistic plex reticle that is more calibrated towards the 223 rem cartridge. This would help in just pointing and shooting where you may not have as much time to dial on a leery yote.... Generally when I'm shooting yotes and calling them in, they come in close.
Burris also used to offer a free turret with these and the AR556/762 4.5-14x42 rifle scopes.
I personally wouldn't use a fixed 10x on a predator rifle...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I agree a 50 with the gas pedal floored is not a bad way to go with either the 22-250 or the Swift. I like a straight 6X on my calling rifles. Some form of BDC or mildot reticle.
You can have your straight six on a calling gun, I think they suck donkey balls.....
I'm fine with that.
They served me well.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
I'm running a 3-9X Burris Timberline Ball. Plex reticle on a 9T 223 AI AR, and love it. Have taken a number of coyotes right around the 500-yd. range with it over the years.