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Yeah, they finally released them not too long ago and promptly sold out. They spent a good bit of time on R&D first. Looks to be a good product.


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I’m waiting for some confirmation on how well they work. If they end up being just as reliable as the factory mags I believe the G48 will become my EDC.

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Originally Posted by pabucktail
I’m waiting for some confirmation on how well they work. If they end up being just as reliable as the factory mags I believe the G48 will become my EDC.

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But, but, I thought Glocks were "Perfection"?????


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
But, but, I thought Glocks were "Perfection"?????
You can always use more capacity.


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I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.


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Being a total left brained analyst I made up a spreadsheet to compare various dimensions for a new carry gun. These forums don't format columns well but fwiw:

Firearm | Capacity | Barrel" | Length" | Height" | Width" | Slide Width" | Sight Radius" | Weight Unloaded
G19 | 15 | 4.02 | 7.28 | 5 | 1.34 | 1 | 6.02 | 21.52

G48 | 10 | 4.17 | 7.28 | 5.04 | 1.1 | 0.087 | 5.98 | 18.48

P365 | 10 | 3.1 | 5.8 | 4.1 | 1 | .9 | 4.9 | 17.8

P365XL | 12 | 3.7 | 6.1 | 4.8 | 1.1 | .9 | 5.6 | 20.7

I only showed the standard magazines, obviously the G19 can be equipped with larger mags, the G48 now with a 15 round mag and the Sigs both have 12 and 15 round mags available that increase the overall height.


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And the 43X is even mo betta for CCW!

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I've always thought that Glock had a certain reason for making the 48 only a 10rd gun. Between that and the 4.2" barrel it was legal for sale in Canada and also optimal for those poor states that have 10rd magazine limits. It isn't that they couldn't have had higher capacity, they just didn't want it.

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Being a total left brained analyst I made up a spreadsheet to compare various dimensions for a new carry gun. These forums don't format columns well but fwiw:

Firearm | Capacity | Barrel" | Length" | Height" | Width" | Slide Width" | Sight Radius" | Weight Unloaded
G19 | 15 | 4.02 | 7.28 | 5 | 1.34 | 1 | 6.02 | 21.52

G48 | 10 | 4.17 | 7.28 | 5.04 | 1.1 | 0.087 | 5.98 | 18.48

P365 | 10 | 3.1 | 5.8 | 4.1 | 1 | .9 | 4.9 | 17.8

P365XL | 12 | 3.7 | 6.1 | 4.8 | 1.1 | .9 | 5.6 | 20.7

I only showed the standard magazines, obviously the G19 can be equipped with larger mags, the G48 now with a 15 round mag and the Sigs both have 12 and 15 round mags available that increase the overall height.



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if only the G43 had been as accurate as my P365, I would have kept it!


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
if only the G43 had been as accurate as my P365, I would have kept it!


The P365 is an excellent pistol which already has a reliable 15 rd magazine

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I like Glocks. I really like my 48. One of these mags wouldn't be everyday for me but I'll have me one, or 2 !

edit: Thanks TRH, for the heads up !

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Originally Posted by logger
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Being a total left brained analyst I made up a spreadsheet to compare various dimensions for a new carry gun. These forums don't format columns well but fwiw:

Firearm | Capacity | Barrel" | Length" | Height" | Width" | Slide Width" | Sight Radius" | Weight Unloaded
G19 | 15 | 4.02 | 7.28 | 5 | 1.34 | 1 | 6.02 | 21.52

G48 | 10 | 4.17 | 7.28 | 5.04 | 1.1 | 0.087 | 5.98 | 18.48

P365 | 10 | 3.1 | 5.8 | 4.1 | 1 | .9 | 4.9 | 17.8

P365XL | 12 | 3.7 | 6.1 | 4.8 | 1.1 | .9 | 5.6 | 20.7

I only showed the standard magazines, obviously the G19 can be equipped with larger mags, the G48 now with a 15 round mag and the Sigs both have 12 and 15 round mags available that increase the overall height.



Wow, the slide on the G48 is really narrow smile

Oops, ya got me! The chamber is bigger than the exterior of the slide, they must have been working with the makers of the Tardis. wink

Okay, make that .87".


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.



WTF?.....it's a 1" wide, compact carry pistol


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Originally Posted by Jesse Jaymes
Originally Posted by FreeMe
I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.



WTF?.....it's a 1" wide, compact carry pistol

Yeah, it would never occur to me to put an electronic sight on one of these.


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There is a company milling these for the RMR, but they have to add an adapter plate, as the footprint of the optic is too wide for the slide.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I’m waiting for some confirmation on how well they work. If they end up being just as reliable as the factory mags I believe the G48 will become my EDC.

Yep.





Funny thing.
Several years ago in a thread of dream guns, I wished for a staggered,
all metal mag Glock. 9mm, with a 9mm dedicated slide. Like a
G36 is lightened too much for 10mm.

So, in my dream gun, I have a lighter, thinner, G19. A grip similar
to a CZ-75 or a Hi-Power. With 12 or more rounds.

TRH, among others explained that Glocks were already light and thin.
And it wasn't a viable idea.

I was fondling a 48 the other day. Thinking, if these mags prove out,
it would be a dandy gun. And that the idea was so obvious, it should have been done 20 years ago.


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Just put in my order at Buds for an all black 43X (yes, you can get them all black now) with Ameriglo night sights. I'll be ordering four or five of the 15 round mags as soon as they catch up with demand, along with the metal mag catch. Should be the ideal concealed carry 9mm.


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Very much worth the extra few bucks for the factory NS AmeriGlo.


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Originally Posted by Jesse Jaymes
Very much worth the extra few bucks for the factory NS AmeriGlo.

I thought so, too. I've researched them, and they are very similar to the Trijicon HD.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jesse Jaymes
Originally Posted by FreeMe
I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.



WTF?.....it's a 1" wide, compact carry pistol

Yeah, it would never occur to me to put an electronic sight on one of these.


Yeah, what the hell was I thinking?


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jesse Jaymes
Originally Posted by FreeMe
I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.



WTF?.....it's a 1" wide, compact carry pistol

Yeah, it would never occur to me to put an electronic sight on one of these.
Yeah, what the hell was I thinking?

Just because it wouldn't occur to me, doesn't mean it's a criticism of you. Go for it. The one made for the P365 would likely work.


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Apparently, Shield Arms also produces a +5 base for this magazine, making it a 20 rounder.


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If I wanted a 43X or a 48, I would buy it and use it as a 10+1 round gun. I wouldn't buy it because somebody made an aftermarket magazine that required swapping a gun part with one that is incompatible with Glock magazines. I just don't get it. Unless there is some reason related to law, policy or special circumstances, it appears to me to be trying too hard to meet a goal already fulfilled by other guns right out of the box. But, it's your money, so enjoy.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
New Magazine A Game Changer For The Glock 43X and 48


Ummmmm, no. Still the same guns.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
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New Magazine A Game Changer For The Glock 43X and 48


Ummmmm, no. Still the same guns.

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That's pretty much my thoughts on it. A Glock is a mediocre pistol wrapped around what has evolved into a quality magazine. Take away the magazine and...


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by FreeMe
I just recently got to handle a 43x and a 48. If they bring one of these out with RM R ready slide, I may just have to finally become a Glockster. 15 rounds...13 rounds...I don't care.



WTF?.....it's a 1" wide, compact carry pistol

Yeah, it would never occur to me to put an electronic sight on one of these.
Yeah, what the hell was I thinking?

Just because it wouldn't occur to me, doesn't mean it's a criticism of you. Go for it. The one made for the P365 would likely work.


laugh I didn't take it as criticism. I thought it was sarcasm, because I assumed you were aware of this...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/g...-9mm-pistol-plus-new-romeo-zero-red-dot/

I don't care how many rounds the 43x and 48 hold. Glock finally got the grip perfect for me (I have special needs). I have yet to get my hands on a 365xl, but the Hellcat doesn't work for me. I have decided that with my aging eyes, I'm not about to buy another carry pistol without MOS. If/when they set up a 43x with that, I'll get serious about it.....unless I already have the Sig. wink


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Originally Posted by FreeMe

I have yet to get my hands on a 365xl, but the Hellcat doesn't work for me. I have decided that with my aging eyes, I'm not about to buy another carry pistol without MOS. If/when they set up a 43x with that, I'll get serious about it.....unless I already have the Sig. wink


FYI, the word is out that Holosun is about to introduce a 407K and 507K models which are supposed to fit the P365 XL cutout. They are scaled down versions of the Holosun 507C, which got a "pass" from the Sage Dynamics RDS guru. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one. Sage Dynamics Holosun 507C review.


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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
If I wanted a 43X or a 48, I would buy it and use it as a 10+1 round gun. I wouldn't buy it because somebody made an aftermarket magazine that required swapping a gun part with one that is incompatible with Glock magazines. I just don't get it. Unless there is some reason related to law, policy or special circumstances, it appears to me to be trying too hard to meet a goal already fulfilled by other guns right out of the box. But, it's your money, so enjoy.

Gaston's design intuition got very constipated over the years. Why not just admit that glocks designs now leave a bit to be desired and buy a P365 or even a Springfield Hellcat? Amazing even Springfield comes out with a micro pistol that holds more than the 43 or 48. The 48 was something people asked for 10 years ago, just not a big deal at this time!


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If I wanted a 43X or a 48, I would buy it and use it as a 10+1 round gun. I wouldn't buy it because somebody made an aftermarket magazine that required swapping a gun part with one that is incompatible with Glock magazines. I just don't get it. Unless there is some reason related to law, policy or special circumstances, it appears to me to be trying too hard to meet a goal already fulfilled by other guns right out of the box. But, it's your money, so enjoy.

Gaston's design intuition got very constipated over the years. Why not just admit that glocks designs now leave a bit to be desired and buy a P365 or even a Springfield Hellcat? Amazing even Springfield comes out with a micro pistol that holds more than the 43 or 48. The 48 was something people asked for 10 years ago, just not a big deal at this time!


Idunno...maybe because the Hellcat grip is blocky and unsecure, and the G48 grip isn't?


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All the innovation is good, but in the subcompact category, I'd rather just take a G26.

The short butt easy to conceal. You can simply stuff a 15rd G19 magazine in it if situation dictates.

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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
Originally Posted by FreeMe

I have yet to get my hands on a 365xl, but the Hellcat doesn't work for me. I have decided that with my aging eyes, I'm not about to buy another carry pistol without MOS. If/when they set up a 43x with that, I'll get serious about it.....unless I already have the Sig. wink


FYI, the word is out that Holosun is about to introduce a 407K and 507K models which are supposed to fit the P365 XL cutout. They are scaled down versions of the Holosun 507C, which got a "pass" from the Sage Dynamics RDS guru. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one. Sage Dynamics Holosun 507C review.


Thanks for that link, Cheyenne!


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
All the innovation is good, but in the subcompact category, I'd rather just take a G26.

The short butt easy to conceal. You can simply stuff a 15rd G19 magazine in it if situation dictates.

This is true. It would be hard abandoning my 26 for the 43X I have on order. We'll see, though.


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I agree there are pro's and cons to everything you buy, but how it feels is low on my list. The 26, 19, 17 all shoot fine for me and seem to absorb any 9mm recoil very well. Glock just does not seem to push the edge of the envelope much these days.


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
I agree there are pro's and cons to everything you buy, but how it feels is low on my list. The 26, 19, 17 all shoot fine for me and seem to absorb any 9mm recoil very well. Glock just does not seem to push the edge of the envelope much these days.


I agree. Otherwise, they'd be making more optics ready slides.

BTW, "feel" is not the same issue as "fit". Glock may not be cutting edge now, but I give them points for allowing more options in fit.


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I am not a glock hater as I have a few of them, my friend and I went to the range yesterday he had just bought a glock 43x, after shooting my P365 side by side, he took the 43X up to the gun sales counter and sold it for a huge loss and bought a new Sig. Anyone who really shoots these guns will tell you the sig trigger just makes the sig gun much easier to hit with. Now I have a G17 that I can shoot better but its had a lot of stuff done to the trigger, springs, connector etc. Let's face it in a small gun like the 43X a 5 pound trigger that breaks and then slams into the frame is likely going to throw your shot off,especially if your not an expert shot anyway. It is work to make a good shot with a small glock, I had a 43 and shot two classes with it however what was hard with the 43 is easy with a p365. I am however going to look at the new gen5 34 again not a hater just a practical common sense realist.


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My Shield Arms mags will be here Tuesday for my G48. I've already replaced the mag release. Will let you know if they are the real deal.

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My Shield Arms mags will be here Tuesday for my G48. I've already replaced the mag release. Will let you know if they are the real deal.

Cool. Run them through the wringer for us.


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
I am not a glock hater as I have a few of them, my friend and I went to the range yesterday he had just bought a glock 43x, after shooting my P365 side by side, he took the 43X up to the gun sales counter and sold it for a huge loss and bought a new Sig. Anyone who really shoots these guns will tell you the sig trigger just makes the sig gun much easier to hit with. Now I have a G17 that I can shoot better but its had a lot of stuff done to the trigger, springs, connector etc. Let's face it in a small gun like the 43X a 5 pound trigger that breaks and then slams into the frame is likely going to throw your shot off,especially if your not an expert shot anyway. It is work to make a good shot with a small glock, I had a 43 and shot two classes with it however what was hard with the 43 is easy with a p365. I am however going to look at the new gen5 34 again not a hater just a practical common sense realist.



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I am not a glock hater as I have a few of them, my friend and I went to the range yesterday he had just bought a glock 43x, after shooting my P365 side by side, he took the 43X up to the gun sales counter and sold it for a huge loss and bought a new Sig. Anyone who really shoots these guns will tell you the sig trigger just makes the sig gun much easier to hit with. Now I have a G17 that I can shoot better but its had a lot of stuff done to the trigger, springs, connector etc. Let's face it in a small gun like the 43X a 5 pound trigger that breaks and then slams into the frame is likely going to throw your shot off,especially if your not an expert shot anyway. It is work to make a good shot with a small glock, I had a 43 and shot two classes with it however what was hard with the 43 is easy with a p365. I am however going to look at the new gen5 34 again not a hater just a practical common sense realist.

I haven't shot a G43 yet so with that disclosure, I really like the Sig P365. Was shooting my recently purchased 365 standard and a rented 365XL side by side and both are extremely shootable and point quickly and naturally. That latter is a huge criterion for me in a defensive pistol. Firing 50 rounds (25 each, 5 at a time) by picking them up and firing just as soon as I see the front sight on target creates a nice 2" raggedy hole with both, centered just slightly low and right. The right part I fixed by drifting the rear sight on the 365, most pistols out of the box shoot right for this left hander. The low part I figure can be adjusted by going to a heavier bullet than the 115 grain ammo I was using.

On the G34 part of your post, I also bought a Sig P320 XFull when I bought the 365 but it doesn't point as naturally. I rented a G34 and shot those two side by side with the same drill, pick it up and fire just as soon as the front sight is on target. The P320 printed low and right with scattered shots including a few out of the bullseye, maybe a 5-6" group total. The G34 printed a nice 2-3" group right above the 10 ring. The P320 shoots much softer for me, it's like a Beretta 92 in that regard, where the G34 is not as comfortable not only to shoot but just "in the hand". But as you note being a common sense realist, results is results and the G34 points much better for me. In deliberate slow fire both are very accurate and can produce nice tight groups off hand.

Handled a standard P320 Carry that has the original grip and curved trigger and it points much more naturally than the X version so I have a new grip and curved trigger being delivered this week. Will put those on the X version and see if that helps. If not then a G34 G5 will very probably be coming into the household.



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I am not a glock hater as I have a few of them, my friend and I went to the range yesterday he had just bought a glock 43x, after shooting my P365 side by side, he took the 43X up to the gun sales counter and sold it for a huge loss and bought a new Sig. Anyone who really shoots these guns will tell you the sig trigger just makes the sig gun much easier to hit with. Now I have a G17 that I can shoot better but its had a lot of stuff done to the trigger, springs, connector etc. Let's face it in a small gun like the 43X a 5 pound trigger that breaks and then slams into the frame is likely going to throw your shot off,especially if your not an expert shot anyway. It is work to make a good shot with a small glock, I had a 43 and shot two classes with it however what was hard with the 43 is easy with a p365. I am however going to look at the new gen5 34 again not a hater just a practical common sense realist.

I haven't shot a G43 yet so with that disclosure, I really like the Sig P365. Was shooting my recently purchased 365 standard and a rented 365XL side by side and both are extremely shootable and point quickly and naturally. That latter is a huge criterion for me in a defensive pistol. Firing 50 rounds (25 each, 5 at a time) by picking them up and firing just as soon as I see the front sight on target creates a nice 2" raggedy hole with both, centered just slightly low and right. The right part I fixed by drifting the rear sight on the 365, most pistols out of the box shoot right for this left hander. The low part I figure can be adjusted by going to a heavier bullet than the 115 grain ammo I was using.

On the G34 part of your post, I also bought a Sig P320 XFull when I bought the 365 but it doesn't point as naturally. I rented a G34 and shot those two side by side with the same drill, pick it up and fire just as soon as the front sight is on target. The P320 printed low and right with scattered shots including a few out of the bullseye, maybe a 5-6" group total. The G34 printed a nice 2-3" group right above the 10 ring. The P320 shoots much softer for me, it's like a Beretta 92 in that regard, where the G34 is not as comfortable not only to shoot but just "in the hand". But as you note being a common sense realist, results is results and the G34 points much better for me. In deliberate slow fire both are very accurate and can produce nice tight groups off hand.

Handled a standard P320 Carry that has the original grip and curved trigger and it points much more naturally than the X version so I have a new grip and curved trigger being delivered this week. Will put those on the X version and see if that helps. If not then a G34 G5 will very probably be coming into the household.




Jim, I'm assuming you rented the 365xl at one of two places. Did they have the 43x or the 48 on hand to rent? I'd like to do a side-by-side.


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It was Independence in Meridian and they are showing a Glock 43 available but not a 48. If you scroll down the rentals page and hover the cursor over Handgun Rentals a list of their available pistols comes up.

https://www.iishooting.com/rentals


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Thanks, Jim.


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All the innovation is good, but in the subcompact category, I'd rather just take a G26.

The short butt easy to conceal. You can simply stuff a 15rd G19 magazine in it if situation dictates.

This is true. It would be hard abandoning my 26 for the 43X I have on order. We'll see, though.



That 43X with 15+1 will make a nice carry.

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My mags came in today. Ordered three, with a mag release. Went to the range for a quick 150 rounds. No malfunctions. First 120 rounds were S&B ball in 115 grains, and the last 30 was 147 grain Gold Dots G2 standard pressure. The gold dots I shot as fast as I could as I probably would in a real life situation. Mags just chewed right through the rounds. Mags did not fit flush in my G48 but didn't extend any farther than Glock OEM mags.

I previously installed a Tyrant Arms mag release so I didn't use Shields. Of the two mags I unwrapped and used both would eject empty, and only one would eject fully loaded. Not a big deal to me. Saw a bit of wear on the mag release as it looked like the coating of paint was scrapped away. A loader is needed after 12 rounds. Last three are a real bear to load. I shot the gun as I would carry it, 16 rounds first, and a 15 round reload.

I will purchase three more when in stock. Would love to see what they could do with a G19 mag.

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Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
My mags came in today. Ordered three, with a mag release. Went to the range for a quick 150 rounds. No malfunctions. First 120 rounds were S&B ball in 115 grains, and the last 30 was 147 grain Gold Dots G2 standard pressure. The gold dots I shot as fast as I could as I probably would in a real life situation. Mags just chewed right through the rounds. Mags did not fit flush in my G48 but didn't extend any farther than Glock OEM mags.

I previously installed a Tyrant Arms mag release so I didn't use Shields. Of the two mags I unwrapped and used both would eject empty, and only one would eject fully loaded. Not a big deal to me. Saw a bit of wear on the mag release as it looked like the coating of paint was scrapped away. A loader is needed after 12 rounds. Last three are a real bear to load. I shot the gun as I would carry it, 16 rounds first, and a 15 round reload.

I will purchase three more when in stock. Would love to see what they could do with a G19 mag.


Glad to hear it. Keep us informed on them.

As to the G19 mag, there's no way to increase the capacity (and still keep them flush fitting) because they are already fully double stack.


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