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I can remember when the .270 win and Winchester's 140 Failsafe was very popular. It seemed to work really well on elk, according to a lot of reviews I read. I have also read where some really like the 140 TSX and/or the 130 TTSX. No Failsafes around now, so does anyone like any other mono, 130 or 140 and why? Not talking about anything but monos now, as I know there are many good bullets out there. Thanks guys

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130 ttsx in 270 is elk bread and butter
Monos retain almost 100 % of their weight. No reason to go heavier and they work going faster


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I've taken deer and elk with the 130 TSX and deer with the 130 TTSX. Lately I've been shooting the 129 LRX - they shoot just as well but I haven't killed anything with them yet. Assuming they perform as well as the others, I'll stick with the 129 LRX...

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I went with the 140 TSX, simply because of the greater weight and the higher BC. However, probably just as well served with the 130 TTSX. Plus, if the shots get “stretched out”.....the TTSX offers a little lower velocity threshold! memtb


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Most of the guys I have asked around here also use the 130. In cup n cor, others use the 150 store bought loads. Handloaders usually pick the 130 if they use a mono. Anyone else?

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I've had good results on elk with the (untipped) 130 TSX BT in a Cooper .270 using H4350 powder.

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The TSX 130 grain have worked good

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I’ve had good luck on a couple bulls with the 130 Etip out of my 270Wby. If that doesn’t stress one I see no reason a 270 Win would and can’t see any reason to go heavier.

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130 TTX or 129 LRX whichever your rifle likes.

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I've killed 1 elk and watched 2 others killed by hunting partners w/270Win/140TSX. I also killed 2 Caribou and watched a 3rd die via same combo. I use Ramshot Hunter and get them a bit over 3K fps from 3 different factory Winchester SS 22" bbl's.

The 140TSX/270Win has been my "go-to" for deer since '05-'06 as well. I've taken deer from "point blank" coming out of cattails or CRP out to 560yds.


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I don't know why but you don't hear of that many 140 mono users. As I mentioned, the old 140 Failsafe was pretty stout on smaller game ( a Spanish goat for my God-son required I follow it up, he hit it a bit behind. I gave him a Washington D.C. ( I don't like the term Texas HS, ha) and both wound channels were pretty small. It would seem the 140 TSX opens a bit quicker than the old FS. The ones that I have heard from who used the 140 TSX also like it very much. I don't however, hear of anyone really who uses the 150 TSX in the Winchester. It should be pretty wicked in the Wby! I have had the last three .270s I've owned "love" the 110TTSX/Hunter combo. How do you find Hunter behaving in really cold temps there Horse?

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A friend has killed several elk with the 110-grain TTSX at ranges out to 500+ yards.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
How do you find Hunter behaving in really cold temps there Horse?


I haven't chrono'd in the cold. I haven't lost/missed a critter due to POI/POA being inaccurate in cold weather.

Not at all scientific, but, the coldest I can think of using Hunter was -21F ambient calling coyotes and killing one @ 300yds w/243Win and 85TSX's with 1 shot.

The deer I took @ 560yds was Oct '19 in SW WY. Ambient temp was in the 20's. Prior to the trip I'd printed out a new ballistic table for 6K' but didn't adjust ambient from ideal of 59 degrees. One is just as likely to have 75 degrees as 0 in that country that time of year. One shot, behind the on-side shoulder out just ahead of the off-side and the deer never took a step.

The bulk of my big-game hunting has been done in ambient temps of 20-40 degrees. Most of my practice is spring, summer, fall from 20-80 degrees. I'm going to do some shooting this weekend but forcast is for high 20's.

I load (prime, charge powder, seat bullet) prepped brass for the 270Win/140TSX combo on a Dillon 550 press w/Forster seater die (non micrometer). Brass prep is minimal. Partial neck sizing with a Forster bushing die on a Co-Ax press. WLR primers in Rem brass. I crack necks before I get loose primer pockets FWIW. Buddy recently bought an AMP annealer so maybe I'll have to keep closer track of exactly how many loadings I can get on a primer pocket???

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I didn't see any mention of the Trophy Bonded they are excellent and the tipped version could be even better. I shoot 140s and still have about five boxes of the Fail Safes but have been shooting mostly the Accubond and Interbond with excellent results in both the Winchester and WSM. I am loading both with R26 and cool temperatures don't seem to affect it much just hot temperatures. With R26 the two are pretty close in velocity with a 50-75 fps advantage for the shorty.

Just read the original question was on Monos. The LRX is excellent, if they shoot they are my first choice with TTSX as second but all the Barnes have performed well for me even the original Xs. If I can get blems or over runs the Nosler and Hornaday monos are good too.

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What about the Cutting Edge products, especially the newer Maximus bullet? Has anyone tried these?
I have used their match,tactical hunting bullet( mth)
Off the bench the .270 wcf and the 130 gr mth worked well enough, but they are costly.
These bullets require some reading about ,careful seating of the bullet because of its bore rider design.
I did not use them for hunting, the hollow point was tough to keep open in hunting conditions.
The new Maximus appears to have a larger h.p.

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Mule Deer- did your friend say what kind of penetration he got with those 110's?

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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
Most of the guys I have asked around here also use the 130. In cup n cor, others use the 150 store bought loads. Handloaders usually pick the 130 if they use a mono. Anyone else?



RL26 with 150gr in the 270 has kind've changed things. The 270 with 150 gr bullets has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of RL26.

One of these days I intend to try my 130 gr E-Tip load on a elk, but 160 gr NPt with RL26 is on tap for next season.........


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I hear you alpine! I got 2930fps and .90" groups with 60gr/160 NP from my last .270...from a 22" barrel! I did see both groups and pressure get wonky right at 85 degrees though. Cold, no sweat. I had extremely good results with R23/150 NBT in that rifle also. I have a 24" .270 win I plan on using next year...but want to use either the 129-140 monos...just for grins! smile I have used monos in many calibers, from small .221 Fireball rifle to .375 Wby...I really feel confident hunting with them. I guess you could say I have "proven to myself" I'm able to take some pretty hard angle , penetrating shots on a variety of game. I am way behind the curve for killing game with the .270 win...so playing "catch-up"! I've played with them all along since about '98, but always used something else...this 24" I'm working on getting now will be #10 for me, maybe I can hold on to it....maybe! smile

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Most recently worked up load for the 129 LRX and RL23. No animals down as yet. Rifle is bofors age sako 24” bbl and getting 3050-3075 and 3/8-1/2 groups. Can’t wait to hammer something.

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