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A BOT conducting data mining. Your on a list that will be sold. The proceeds will be used to fund activities for gun control.
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should it be legal to carry a gun from the living room to the dining room
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WTF does "only for self defense" mean anyway?
Is there any other reason to carry a gun?
The 2'nd is not about hunting deer or pheasants. It is about defense from enemies of the state, foreign and domestic.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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WTF does "only for self defense" mean anyway?
Is there any other reason to carry a gun?
The 2'nd is not about hunting deer or pheasants. It is about defense from enemies of the state, foreign and domestic. Those who made up the three choices were obviously retarded. "Only for self defense" obviously makes no sense, as if some people don't want you carrying for range trips, hiking to hunting areas, etc., but would be okay if it were for self-defense.
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You can not trust them to post the truth. Not only can you not trust them to post results that "disappoint" them, you can't trust their polling sample either. When they get results they don't like, a poll will be buried. Why anyone watches the MSM at all anymore is a complete mystery to me. They ran the same poll mid-September last year. The initial results were 93% in favor of carry in public with over 800K votes in the first 24 hours. The survey went off line for about 10 days. When it resurfaced, it was ~55% against public carry. Over 1 million additional votes against during the 10 day period, and less than 25,000 additional votes for. Not sure if they put it up on DU? Or where? But it was obvious they were manipulating the vote to fit their agenda because they did not like the initial showing...
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that's what ya call a pole vault
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Open carry is legal most states According to the Brady bunch https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/guns-in-public/open-carry/Three states (California, Florida, and Illinois) and the District of Columbia generally prohibit people from openly carrying firearms in public. Two states (New York and South Carolina) prohibit openly carrying handguns, but not long guns, and another three states (Massachusetts, Minnesota, and New Jersey) prohibit openly carrying long guns, but not handguns. In the remaining states, people are generally allowed to openly carry firearms, although some states require a permit or license to do so.
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WTF does "only for self defense" mean anyway?
Is there any other reason to carry a gun?
Maybe for offense???
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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Kinda dumb to be asking the question 30+ years after CC went mainstream with no negative effects.
Besides, MSNBC never engages in honest endeavors so it's useless to even participate in any of their polling schemes.
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Didn't read the article. But I don't much like the idea of open carry in crowds or public places. If someone has bad intents you would be the first target. Also with the statistics on officers being shot with their own weapon it's not too good an idea to make your weapon visible and available. I carry holstered on my belt at the farm or in the woods but concealed in town or church. That way no one knows and therefore they don't feel bothered.
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Didn't read the article. But I don't much like the idea of open carry in crowds or public places. If someone has bad intents you would be the first target. Also with the statistics on officers being shot with their own weapon it's not too good an idea to make your weapon visible anzed available. I carry holstered on my belt at the farm or in the woods but concealed in town or church. That way no one knows and therefore they don't feel bothered. Someone grabbing for my gun during a momentary lapse of attention,(ever spilled coffee?), is reason enough not to advertise a sidearm on your pocession. Why would you want to advertise to the bad guys anyway?
Youthful enthusiasm is replaced by old age and treachery!
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Didn't read the article. But I don't much like the idea of open carry in crowds or public places. If someone has bad intents you would be the first target. Also with the statistics on officers being shot with their own weapon it's not too good an idea to make your weapon visible anzed available. I carry holstered on my belt at the farm or in the woods but concealed in town or church. That way no one knows and therefore they don't feel bothered. Someone grabbing for my gun during a momentary lapse of attention,(ever spilled coffee?), is reason enough not to advertise a sidearm on your pocession. Why would you want to advertise to the bad guys anyway? Agreed, NO open carry for me until EVERYONE open carry's. 
Trump Won!
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46% yes-53% no
But it's a commie site ,so really it's not "that" bad.
Bad enough ,but I would think it would be way more lop sided. You misread it. The 1% for "only for defense" is actually another percent for yes. Total yes, then, is 47%. "Only for self defense" is an ignorant response. How could you legislate and enforce such a law? "Honest officer, it's for self-defense." How would you prove otherwise?
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should it be legal to carry a gun from the living room to the dining room "Only for self-defense. "
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Kinda dumb to be asking the question 30+ years after CC went mainstream with no negative effects. Not if you want to say "most Americans are in favor of prohibiting firearms in public."
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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46% yes-53% no
But it's a commie site ,so really it's not "that" bad.
Bad enough ,but I would think it would be way more lop sided. You misread it. The 1% for "only for defense" is actually another percent for yes. Total yes, then, is 47%. "Only for self defense" is an ignorant response. How could you legislate and enforce such a law? "Honest officer, it's for self-defense." How would you prove otherwise? Regardless, it counts as a yes for carry in public. Its likely purpose for being added was to sow confusion, and to split the yes vote. It clearly didn't work very well, since very few chose it.
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46% yes-53% no
But it's a commie site ,so really it's not "that" bad.
Bad enough ,but I would think it would be way more lop sided. You misread it. The 1% for "only for defense" is actually another percent for yes. Total yes, then, is 47%. "Only for self defense" is an ignorant response. How could you legislate and enforce such a law? "Honest officer, it's for self-defense." How would you prove otherwise? It is not about enforcing up front, but rather an extra charge after the fact. Something else for leverage when the perp is looking at plea options. I think it is dumb, but I do see some value. I just wish some of the idiots would realize they are not doing our side any good by carrying...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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46% yes-53% no
But it's a commie site ,so really it's not "that" bad.
Bad enough ,but I would think it would be way more lop sided. You misread it. The 1% for "only for defense" is actually another percent for yes. Total yes, then, is 47%. "Only for self defense" is an ignorant response. How could you legislate and enforce such a law? "Honest officer, it's for self-defense." How would you prove otherwise? It is not about enforcing up front, but rather an extra charge after the fact. Something else for leverage when the perp is looking at plea options. I think it is dumb, but I do see some value. I just wish some of the idiots would realize they are not doing our side any good by carrying...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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I carry concealed everywhere I go. I know if I was a bad guy fixing to do some harm I would want to take out the open carries first.
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I love the way folks here are funding MSNBC. Hell, the clicks this forum alone gives CNN probably keeps them alive.
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