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Hard to beat a 30-06 with a 165gr Nosler Ballistic Tip
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How far did that one run?




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Originally Posted by deflave
Tinman,

You look great today.

Per always.


Duh...I always looks good.

Why even bother asking?



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Originally Posted by wdenike
How far did that one run?




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DRT.The other side looked fine.If you look near the top of the hole you can see the tiny green tip.


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Originally Posted by deflave
The .17's drop coyotes dead as Dillinger.

You just need to know how to shoot and the respective round's limitations.

I would have no doubts about using the 17s myself but your last statement sums it all up.


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Thanks for the replies. My buddy is a handloader, and is going to try the 40 grain Nosler BTs in his 22-250. He probably will try the 17 Remington first, as a friend loaned him the rifle.

I once owned that rifle, and it shot great with several loads. I will pass on the information about 17 caliber bullets. As I recall, the 20 grain VMAXs shot great, but from what was said above a heavier bullet is called for. I tried 30 grain Bergers on the recommendation of an acquaintance, and they stabilized. I think he has some 25 grain Bergers.

I have only killed one coyote, back in 1998. I hit him amidships with a 100 grain Speer HP out of my 257 Roberts and blew him about in half. He didn't go anywhere. The pelt was worthless, and mangy before I ended his days. That was when we had decent woodchuck hunting here in NJ and lower NY State. Now the fields are either housing developments, corn, or "green acres" where you can't hunt.


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Originally Posted by Oakster
I like the .243 for coyotes myself. Use a good hunting bullet if you want to save hides, a varmint style bullet if you want to kill and not care about the hides. My goto now is the .240 Weatherby, but I don't keep hides.

Same here. Had a 222 40 or so years ago and had too many runners. Prior to that I used 270 win.

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Originally Posted by Bugger
I think that a 270 is best for coyotes.


A 270 is too light, everybody knows that. Plus, it's gay. A 270 just ain't enough rifle to anchor a coyote.

Bare minimum is a 300 RUM, with a 338 Win being preferred, or prefurred.


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Originally Posted by deflave
The .17's drop coyotes dead as Dillinger.

You just need to know how to shoot and the respective round's limitations.


Deflave, and Ingwe, have spoken.

Bottom line is, if your friend can't shoot, he can't shoot. Tell him to get a 22 LR and go to the friggin range and practice.

It doesn't matter what he shoots one with, if it's a crap shot, it's a crap shot, and he will get negative results.

17's have been killing coyotes for decades. If he wants pelts, learn to shoot accurately and use a 17 centerfire. It's that simple.


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I bought four fifty round boxes of 22-250 hollow point ammo for three bucks a piece a couple of years ago just in case I ever run across a deal on a "coyote rifle". 45 and 50 grain.

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I have used both the 17 Rem and 204 Ruger to me they are pretty much interchangeable. No problems killing coyote and bobcat with them.


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204 would be my choice


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So many variables...

He wants pelts? .204 and 35 Berger is smallest I'd go for reliable kills with good placement under 400....


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