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is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? #14427547 01/02/20
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any still flying?
did the raptor replace it ?


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14428170 01/02/20
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The F/A-18C and D models are no longer deployed and have been replaced by the F/A-18E and F "super hornets" (which only share about 15% parts commonality with the C/D) and the F/A-18G replaced the EA-6B.

They're going to be around quite a while but the F-35 is their "replacement" but so expensive I don't think that it ever really will.

The F-22 isn't carrier capable and never will be.


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Originally Posted by Pugs
The F-22 isn't carrier capable and never will be.


Why not ??


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Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Pugs
The F-22 isn't carrier capable and never will be.


Why not ??


Nevermind.

A Google search and 15 minutes of reading and now I know why not...………………...


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14433819 01/04/20
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thanks pugs.
and was in mirimar for the 79 blues air show....when the YF17 made its debut'. i was in lakehurst nj when the 18 was going thru cat and net tests in 80-81.
and lo and behold, i was in Lemoore nas when the first 18 came west. they hit the fleet and started replacing the A7's. marines got them first.
seems I was always one step ahead of them.

lots changed over time.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14433828 01/04/20
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did I call the navy jet a 22 by accident?
what is the 35?


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14434061 01/04/20
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Originally Posted by bobski
did I call the navy jet a 22 by accident?
what is the 35?


I CQ'ed with A-7's aboard Indy but after Desert Storm that was the end of them and the Hornets became the norm for light attack. Funny, I was at China Lake in the mid-90's and out for a run and there was an A-7 that came into the break. The I saw the wing come up. Holy crap, an F-8. The only one I have ever seen flying. It was a contractor out of Mojave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

Several versions including ashore and afloat.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14435773 01/05/20
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f-8's were still in mirimar in the mid 70's. as they returned to mirimar after cruise, they transitioned to F14's, one sqd at a time. I liked those F8's. loud and easy to work on. we use to call them the stretch A7's.
last time I was in china lake was 89. they were still using sabres as drone jets!!! I saw the last flying sabres in navy inventory that week.
I even saw the only C8 in navy inventory. better yet, I got to jump out of one too!


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14437071 01/05/20
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Originally Posted by bobski
last time I was in china lake was 89. they were still using sabres as drone jets!!! I saw the last flying sabres in navy inventory that week!


Yep - they still had Sabres as targets when I was down my first time. Shame those magnificent planes ended up scattered across the desert but the weapons that were tested turned out great.


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china lake had the only one of these. NPTF used it to film parachutes.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14437147 01/05/20
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this whole topic started due to what I heard on local news. being in va beach, reporters are always reporting on oceana and Langley afb. they always get the f22 and f35 mixed up. they didn't elaborate on model updates (a-b-d-g) etc...so it thru a lot of us off when they said they were decommd. and they always get af jets mixed up with navy jets. lol.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14437461 01/05/20
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Va beach has Langley AFB just north of there and it has F-22s so they are interested in both but I never find the media terribly smart about this stuff.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: Pugs] #14438881 01/06/20
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Originally Posted by Pugs
The F/A-18C and D models are no longer deployed and have been replaced by the F/A-18E and F "super hornets" (which only share about 15% parts commonality with the C/D) and the F/A-18G replaced the EA-6B.

They're going to be around quite a while but the F-35 is their "replacement" but so expensive I don't think that it ever really will.


Not quite correct.

The F/A-18 A/C/D Hornets are still flying in USMC service - the last USMC Hornet squadron is due to re-equip to F-35s around 2030 (see USMC F-35 transition plan ).

There are still two USN F/A-18A/C/D Hornet squadrons - VFA-204 and VFC-12.
VFA-204 is a reserve squadron based in New Orleans, and provides adversary support for the Navy's Fleet Replacement Squadrons (FRS's) which train new pilots to fly the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet or the F-35 Lightning II at NAS Key West, Florida and NAS Fallon, Nevada.
VFC-12 is a reserve squadron based at NAS Oceana, Virginia, and provides adversary training to East Coast air wings.


The F-35 is the replacement for the F/A-18A/C/D (and the AV-8B in the USMC). The USN has equipped some former F/A-18A/C/D squadrons with F/A-18E/F Super Hornets, and these will be replaced by F-35s over time - the planned final mix is ~50% F-35 & ~50% Super Hornets.
The F/A-18E/F will serve beside the F-35 for at least 2 more decades - the Super Hornets are supposed to be replaced by a new fighter beginning around 2040... which could be manned, unmanned, or "optionally manned".



Jon A. - Sgt, USMC 1981-89, A-6E & F/A-18 avionics tech

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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: Blackbat242] #14438951 01/06/20
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Originally Posted by Blackbat242
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The F/A-18C and D models are no longer deployed and have been replaced by the F/A-18E and F "super hornets" (which only share about 15% parts commonality with the C/D) and the F/A-18G replaced the EA-6B.

They're going to be around quite a while but the F-35 is their "replacement" but so expensive I don't think that it ever really will.


Not quite correct.

The F/A-18 A/C/D Hornets are still flying in USMC service - the last USMC Hornet squadron is due to re-equip to F-35s around 2030 (see USMC F-35 transition plan ).

There are still two USN F/A-18A/C/D Hornet squadrons - VFA-204 and VFC-12.
VFA-204 is a reserve squadron based in New Orleans, and provides adversary support for the Navy's Fleet Replacement Squadrons (FRS's) which train new pilots to fly the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet or the F-35 Lightning II at NAS Key West, Florida and NAS Fallon, Nevada.
VFC-12 is a reserve squadron based at NAS Oceana, Virginia, and provides adversary training to East Coast air wings.


The F-35 is the replacement for the F/A-18A/C/D (and the AV-8B in the USMC). The USN has equipped some former F/A-18A/C/D squadrons with F/A-18E/F Super Hornets, and these will be replaced by F-35s over time - the planned final mix is ~50% F-35 & ~50% Super Hornets.
The F/A-18E/F will serve beside the F-35 for at least 2 more decades - the Super Hornets are supposed to be replaced by a new fighter beginning around 2040... which could be manned, unmanned, or "optionally manned".



Jon A. - Sgt, USMC 1981-89, A-6E & F/A-18 avionics tech


Of course - I was covering Navy and not the Marines - The Marines I know really wish the Corp had decided to go with the E/F as well and not put all their cards in the F-35. The EW "potential" of the F-35 is going to keep the Marines dependent on Navy Growlers for as long as they fly the C/D Hornets.

I also don't consider VFA-204 or VFC-12 deployable. They are adversary squadrons. (and I flew in CAG-20 the last of my career).


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I was a cag 14 and cag 11 man myself.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14443473 01/07/20
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Originally Posted by bobski
I was a cag 14 and cag 11 man myself.


CAG-8, CAG-7 and CAG-30 and CAG-20. Along with the FEWSG odd ball.


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Re: is the F/A-18 decomm'ed? [Re: bobski] #14509543 01/27/20
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Ah, yes, the EA-6B... the sedan version of the Intruder.

I did IMA FLIR repair for 3MAW 81-89 (mostly A-6E, but a little F/A-18A).
I was with CVW-2 aboard Ranger '85-87.

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