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And give in to the Demons demand to call witnesses?
I say yes they will, & this will drag on; also will give more cover to the 2-3 GOP senators who are not really Trump supporters.
McConnell needs to shut it down once & for all & get it over with; Demons should have made their case in the HoR, not be allowed to add to it in the Senate.
They didn't, they can't & it should be run right up their azzes.
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Republicans are not known for having any ballzatall.
They usually roll over like a dog wanting a belly scratch.
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This will probably drag on longer then it should. Remember the left-wing and right wing are on the same freaking bird. Deep down inside they all want to get rid of President Trump. So they can get back to conniving stealing and getting rich. It's the good ole boys club. You will never see any one of those pieces of [bleep] be indicted for anything.
Take care, Willie
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Republicans are not known for having any ballzatall.
They usually roll over like a dog wanting a belly scratch. ... or a 'ho in heat...
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If they do they'll be the ex-Senate GOP.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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This will probably drag on longer then it should. Remember the left-wing and right wing are on the same freaking bird. Deep down inside they all want to get rid of President Trump. So they can get back to conniving stealing and getting rich. It's the good ole boys club. You will never see any one of those pieces of [bleep] be indicted for anything.
Take care, Willie True, and what's the best way to damage President Trump and lesson his chances for reelection? Allow a few witnesses to testify only to be 1) ignored by the public and 2) maybe even help The President? ...or not call any witnesses, giving the Media campaign fodder saying the Republicans are engaged in a cover-up, These Republican Senators need to be gone, President Trump is guilty as hell and the Republicans refuse to allow the evidence to prove it, etc.etc.etc. The Democrats don't want to call witnesses, they want the Senate to refuse their requests, allowing witnesses is that last thing they want, they want to continue on with accusation that cannot be proven or debunked. Allowing witnesses will end their scheme and finally officially acquit The President. They need to keep this Russia, Ukraine, Dictator narrative alive allowing witnesses will end it all, something they can't afford. IMO, the Senate will not allow witnesses, they are fine with President Trump being forever accused and never acquitted in the public eye.
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Good points; we'll find out soon enough this week.
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Tomorrow will be the day the fun starts. Great consternation and gnashing of teeth.
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If they do, we'll lose the senate, then country in short order!
Trump Won!
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They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Has there ever been an impeachment in the Senate without any witnesses called?
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
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Has there ever been an impeachment in the Senate without any witnesses called?
The case & the evidence should have already been done in the HoR as support for bringing impeachment charges...........IOW, the case should already be fully prepared. The case should simply be presented as is, to the Senate, not being able to call new witnesses unless the defense desires to call them since they were not allowed to call any in the HoR. Prosecution should already have made their case. MM
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If they do, we'll lose the senate, then country in short order! If they do, they will remove the democrats and the media's false narrative and campaign fodder. It's akin to what the President did when this all started. They accused him via a "whistle blower" and the accusation snowball was rolled down the hill. President Trump immediately released the transcript of the phone call, something the democrats and the Deep State never ever thought he would do, and the snowball was blown to smithereens. This forced the Democrats, the Media and the Deep State to shift gears and go to plan b-c-d... This is the same tactic by the Democrats and the deep state. Make false accusation under the assumption that President Trump will invoke Executive Privilege. or that the Republicans will refuse to hear the witnesses. Allowing Bolton to be deposed, testify and be cross examined, is the last thing they want, just like releasing the transcript was the last this they wanted.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Has there ever been an impeachment in the Senate without any witnesses called?
The case & the evidence should have already been done in the HoR as support for bringing impeachment charges...........IOW, the case should already be fully prepared. The case should simply be presented as is, to the Senate, not being able to call new witnesses unless the defense desires to call them since they were not allowed to call any in the HoR. Prosecution should already have made their case. MM They didn't call witnesses in the House for this very reason, to accuse both the President and the Republican controlled Senate of a Cover-up. If they allow Bolton to testify, the cover-up accusation is blown to smithereens, something the Democrats are hoping and praying the Republicans won't allow.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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If the Republican senators are smart, and that is debatable, they'll realize that the longer they allow this circus to drag itself out, the more long term damage that the GOP is going to suffer. The Democrats are going to hate whoever the Republican president is, it doesn't matter. If John McCain was resurrected from the grave, and became president, they would do whatever they thought was necessary to remove him from office. This has never been about anything Trump did, it's been about the fact that the Democrats are not in power.
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And give in to the Demons demand to call witnesses?
I say yes they will, & this will drag on; also will give more cover to the 2-3 GOP senators who are not really Trump supporters.
McConnell needs to shut it down once & for all & get it over with; Demons should have made their case in the HoR, not be allowed to add to it in the Senate.
They didn't, they can't & it should be run right up their azzes.
MM No way they cave. Call witnesses and they lose their asses. Bolton alone could make impossible to vote to dismiss - and claim to be doing one's job as a senator and constitutional American.
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If the Republican senators are smart, and that is debatable, they'll realize that the longer they allow this circus to drag itself out, the more long term damage that the GOP is going to suffer. The Democrats are going to hate whoever the Republican president is, it doesn't matter. If John McCain was resurrected from the grave, and became president, they would do whatever they thought was necessary to remove him from office. This has never been about anything Trump did, it's been about the fact that the Democrats are not in power. I wish I could have said it as plain as you did. Hasbeen
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I hope you're right Steve.
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There has never been an impeachment without a crime before either. So they don’t need witnesses noe. Ed k
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If the Republican senators are smart, and that is debatable, they'll realize that the longer they allow this circus to drag itself out, the more long term damage that the GOP is going to suffer. The Democrats are going to hate whoever the Republican president is, it doesn't matter. If John McCain was resurrected from the grave, and became president, they would do whatever they thought was necessary to remove him from office. This has never been about anything Trump did, it's been about the fact that the Democrats are not in power. I wish I could have said it as plain as you did. Hasbeen Indeed, the longer they stall, the more irrefutable evidence will accumulate that Trump is guilty and should be removed. Best to eject this as fast as possible and then redirect attention elsewhere. Maybe another attack on Iraq/Iran or some such. Anything to put this in the rear view mirror ASAP. The GOP can only lose the longer this game goes on.
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