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I just found a shop that sells Swiss Black Powder as well as Goex. I've only recently entertained any notion of trying it out, since the only thing I knew to be dependable in flintlocks was real black.
Well, I bought a pound of Swiss 2F and was wondering if anyone on Campfire has any idea of the cocsistancy, accuracy potential, and/or if it fairs any better when conditions get a little wet? Thank you in advance for any information.
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I was given a lb of 1 1/2 f Swiss by a guy that owns (but doesn't shoot} a 45/70 black powder cartridge gun. I tried it in my .54 cal cap gun, and it works well. Have not tried it in my flinters yet. It has a bit crisper report and is pretty clean. On another site, a guy says the charcoal used in the manufacture of Swiss powders is made from stands of select alder hand-picked by Gypsies. So that is the reason it is so much better.
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Have never tried it in a muzzleloader but for BP Cartridges it is the gold standard for accuracy! Have been using it in 1 1/2 version in my CPA Stevens 44 1/2 38-55 for 17 yrs. now with no complaints
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. I've only recently entertained any notion of trying it out, since the only thing I knew to be dependable in flintlocks was real black.
I don't know what you're thinking there, but Swiss is true black powder and, like the other poster said, is the gold standard. Some shooters avoid it because of the cost. Quality doesn't come cheap. Paul
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I shoot 80grs of Swiss 2f in my 54cal long rifle with patched roundball and get excellent accuracy. Seems to shoot much cleaner than other powders. Never had a problem with ignition but I admit, I'm a fair weather hunter so haven't tried it in the rain.
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Can you post the name of the shop and where it is, I'm always looking for a place to buy BP
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Can you post the name of the shop and where it is, I'm always looking for a place to buy BP Sure Frank. The shop is called Dixon's Muzzleloading Shop in Kempton Pa. They also host a muzzleloading fair each July which has quite a draw with the black powder crowd,(includi ng me). I mention that in case you have a wild hair to visit the little shop that might be the time to do so. They have all manner of things there, including the custom gunmakers themselves!
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. I've only recently entertained any notion of trying it out, since the only thing I knew to be dependable in flintlocks was real black.
I don't know what you're thinking there, but Swiss is true black powder and, like the other poster said, is the gold standard. Some shooters avoid it because of the cost. Quality doesn't come cheap. Paul I'm sorry you miscontrue my meaning Paul. I didn't intend to allude that Swiss was not real black powder, only that it was so new to me that I hadn't heard of it. (And I agree, quality doesn't come cheap)
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Anyone here ever compare it to Old Eynsford? I have used Old Eynsford and I dont think the patch gets quite as gunked up. I think it is slightly more accurate than Goex, but still not sure.
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The place I buy my powder has regular Goex and OE, and after reading a couple of glowing reviews I've settled on OE, as the price difference is minimal. I think it burns cleaner, and reportedly it's a bit more energetic.
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Can you post the name of the shop and where it is, I'm always looking for a place to buy BP Sure Frank. The shop is called Dixon's Muzzleloading Shop in Kempton Pa. They also host a muzzleloading fair each July which has quite a draw with the black powder crowd,(includi ng me). I mention that in case you have a wild hair to visit the little shop that might be the time to do so. They have all manner of things there, including the custom gunmakers themselves! Dixons is a great place for anyone looking to get into shooting black powder. Good selection of parts for the builder barrels,stocks, triggers you name it.Goex and Swiss powders. The owners are great folks I can't recommend them highly enough. Take the trip if only to shop but I will bet you won't leave empty handed there are just too many goodies. If you can at all manage go to the Gunmakers Fair in July.
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. I've only recently entertained any notion of trying it out, since the only thing I knew to be dependable in flintlocks was real black.
I don't know what you're thinking there, but Swiss is true black powder and, like the other poster said, is the gold standard. Some shooters avoid it because of the cost. Quality doesn't come cheap. Paul "Quality doesn't come cheap." That goes triple for rifles!!
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it makes a lot of sense that Swiss is better cause it uses Willow. When I burn Willow in my wood boiler, it does not last long but it burns very clean and is nothing left but a whitish type ash from what I remember. I got some on accident cause it looked like hardwood bark and was darn heavy , but was from water in it.
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