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Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven #14507527 01/26/20
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,648 Central Texas E eamyrick OP Campfire Regular
OP eamyrick Campfire Regular E Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,648 Central Texas	If you were buying a post 64 Winchester Model 75 in .375 H&H would you buy a New Haven or BACO (South Carolina) model considering same condition. Why? Made in Portugal stamp is not an option. Thanks.

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Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14507556 01/26/20
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,348 The swamp winchester70 Campfire Regular
winchester70 Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,348 The swamp	New Haven Classic. Trigger. Some will tell you the BACO trigger is just as good. They will be wrong. Last edited by winchester70; 01/26/20. Take kids shooting and hunting. Join the NRA and GOA. https://gunowners.org/donate/donations/join/?src=32018 https://membership.nra.org/Join/Annuals

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14508234 01/26/20
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AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,824	The BACO has a better barrel profile and will balance better. And I’ll take a BACO over a late production New Haven any day. The trigger ... ah yes, the fabled trigger. Your call how important it is to you. The moa is certainly more complicated and maybe less reliable; but an moa with an Earnie the gunsmith spring is pretty easy - and damn good. Another consideration will be availability. If SS is part of your game plan, the New Haven will be much easier to find ... Last edited by AKwolverine; 01/26/20. Reason: an

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven winchester70 #14508987 01/26/20
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jkinpa Campfire Regular J Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 848 SE PA	Originally Posted by winchester70 New Haven Classic. Trigger. Some will tell you the BACO trigger is just as good. They will be wrong. Agreed.

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14509432 01/26/20
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Originally Posted by eamyrick If you were buying a post 64 Winchester Model 75 in .375 H&H would you buy a New Haven or BACO (South Carolina) model considering same condition. Why? Made in Portugal stamp is not an option. Thanks. I'd buy a pre 64, but that's probably just me.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

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Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven bsa1917hunter #14509749 01/27/20
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OP eamyrick Campfire Regular E Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,648 Central Texas	Seems like for 1k more the pre-64 is a solid option. Do they have a 4+1 mag capacity in 375. And...bsa1917hunter....my Africa and Pre-64 30-06 deposit go out next Friday.

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14509799 01/27/20
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,126 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna
Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,126 WI.	Originally Posted by winchester70 New Haven Classic. Trigger. Some will tell you the BACO trigger is just as good. They will be wrong. Beat me to it... Originally Posted by eamyrick Seems like for 1k more the pre-64 is a solid option. Do they have a 4+1 mag capacity in 375. No... 3+1.. And I'd take the NH over the BACO every day and five times on Sunday... But that's just me.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven Redneck #14510453 01/27/20
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Originally Posted by Redneck Originally Posted by winchester70 New Haven Classic. Trigger. Some will tell you the BACO trigger is just as good. They will be wrong. Beat me to it... Originally Posted by eamyrick Seems like for 1k more the pre-64 is a solid option. Do they have a 4+1 mag capacity in 375. No... 3+1.. And I'd take the NH over the BACO every day and five times on Sunday... But that's just me.. I believe he's asking about the pre 64 375 H&H having a 4+1 capacity. If he is, then yes, they do. I have a few laying around here, and they all do. One of the reasons I love building off of an H&H receiver... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14510841 01/27/20
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Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,126 WI.	Good point... I literally forgot about the "pre" part... I gotta read slower... Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14511274 01/27/20
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Slope77 Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2017 Posts: 1,708 ND	I thought I read on here once upon a time that if you change out the spring, you can fit 4 rounds in the magazine of a NH Classic. Is that correct? Last edited by Slope77; 01/27/20.

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Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven Slope77 #14511853 01/27/20
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McCray Campfire Regular M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 901	If you aren't married to the old trigger, take a look at a BACO Alaskan. A far better feel than the Safari Express (BACO or New Haven) with it's clunky stock and truck axle-like barrel! A 375 really shouldn't be built like a 458. Winchester rifles and Swarovski scopes.

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven Slope77 #14513274 01/28/20
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Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,126 WI.	Originally Posted by Slope77 I thought I read on here once upon a time that if you change out the spring, you can fit 4 rounds in the magazine of a NH Classic. Is that correct? Correct. The factory spring has a 'hump' at the rear end.. Change it out for a standard and the extra round can be added.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven Redneck #14515325 01/28/20
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Slope77 Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2017 Posts: 1,708 ND	Originally Posted by Redneck Originally Posted by Slope77 I thought I read on here once upon a time that if you change out the spring, you can fit 4 rounds in the magazine of a NH Classic. Is that correct? Correct. The factory spring has a 'hump' at the rear end.. Change it out for a standard and the extra round can be added.. Any chance I could get a part number, Redneck? Also, and I apologize if I am getting close to stealing the thread, but how “available” are Classic Safaris in 416?

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14515365 01/28/20
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OP eamyrick Campfire Regular E Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,648 Central Texas	Better deals on Classic Safaris in 416 they I’ve seen on 375s

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven McCray #14515403 01/28/20
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AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,824	Originally Posted by McCray If you aren't married to the old trigger, take a look at a BACO Alaskan. A far better feel than the Safari Express (BACO or New Haven) with it's clunky stock and truck axle-like barrel! A 375 really shouldn't be built like a 458. Agree completely, and this is what I was referring to in my original response. I had overlooked that they (BACO - SC years) were still doing the safari express with its “truck axle-like barrel”

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14515872 01/28/20
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OP eamyrick Campfire Regular E Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,648 Central Texas	Would a 21 inch barrel Safari Classic (professional cut down) solve the balance issue?

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14515932 01/28/20
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Originally Posted by eamyrick Would a 21 inch barrel Safari Classic (professional cut down) solve the balance issue? Ask DF Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven bsa1917hunter #14516065 01/28/20
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Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,020 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by eamyrick Would a 21 inch barrel Safari Classic (professional cut down) solve the balance issue? Ask DF Yes, big difference. Mine was chopped at 21" and flutted. Barrel shot too well to replace. DF

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14516115 01/28/20
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Good thread guys. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Model 70 .375 Baco (SC) or New Haven eamyrick #14516197 01/28/20
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79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,494 Alaska valley trash	I have one of the "truck axle" barrel new haven stainless classic in 375 H&H and it feels fine to me. I shot it maybe 15 times, one day I might be lucky enough to draw a Kodiak bear tag. I will take that (by 24 hourcamp fire standards ungodly, unbalanced, chitty stock, truck axle barrel) model 70 to Kodiak and shoot me a bear. I will then let the experts on 24 hour tell me afterwards how lucky I am I didn't die dragging an inferior rifle to Kodiak.. Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

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