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I find 4X too much more often than not. A 1-4X or 1-6X is about as near perfect as I can imagine.


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Good thing I bought my Zess conquest 4x here last month. The leupold 4x prices have gone up and to my eyes it is a way better scope, the glass is a bit better but than the 4x fx I compared it to but the zeiss European style duplex is superior by far to the Leupold wide duplex. I did like the short length of the Leupold.

I have fixed 4x and 6x scopes on some of my rifles. All german scopes. I like the simplicity of them and they never lose zero and track, but a top end variable from one of the same companies do as well, just alot more cash.

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Optics Planet shows Leupold 4x33 in stock, $299.00

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I don't see it or the 6x36 on Leupold's website anymore. Opticsplanet says estimated to ship in 7-16 days

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I got in on that special run of S&B PM2 6x42 ST’s Doug did here a couple years ago. I’d love it if Camera Land could get a run of those same scopes in 4x. I’d be good for at least two, probably three of them.

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Aside from the previously mentioned, Swift still makes 4x32 and 4x40 scopes, I think.

If you want a high end 4x, you will have to order Kaps or Nickel from Europe.

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Are those Kaps scopes top gear?

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Originally Posted by mathman
Are those Kaps scopes top gear?


I have not seen one in a while, but I remember it being of near S&B quality.

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The Midway mailing I received today has a Weaver Classic 4x28 for $129 on page 5.

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Originally Posted by koshkin
Aside from the previously mentioned, Swift still makes 4x32 and 4x40 scopes, I think.

If you want a high end 4x, you will have to order Kaps or Nickel from Europe.

ILya


Nickel's website shows their 4x36, but only with running target reticle. They are certainly not cheap either.

I have a 1.5 - 6 Nickel, and it is a really nice scope. There's little doubt their 4x would be a good one too, if you could get it with a suitable reticle, and cough up the 2000 Euros or so plus shipping.

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Kaps scopes are top notch for sure. I had a 1.5-6 ×42. To my eyes in league with any top end German glass but no importers or warranty services here.

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I bought a brand new 4x FX-II just last year. It sits atop a Ruger Hawkeye 30-06.

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Originally Posted by Condition Yellow
The Midway mailing I received today has a Weaver Classic 4x28 for $129 on page 5.


I think if you go back and read the fine print in that circular, you will see that is for a long eye relief SCOUT SCOPE.

The reg Centerfire 4x Weavers were a 4x38

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Weaver did make a 4x28 with 4" of eye relief also, sometimes marketed as a rimfire or shotgun scope, depending on what they wanted people to think that it was for. I have one, and it is very nice and works well. Closer parallax adjustment.

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Spence, to clarify, did you say you liked the glass in the FX better than Zeiss?

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Back to the OP, I forgot that I've owned a couple of Nikon 4x40 scopes, and they were actually quite nice. I've also used the ProStaff 4x Rimfire scope, and really, really like that one.

If one didn't mind buying a discontinued model from a discontinued brand...

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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
.... I forgot that I've owned a couple of Nikon 4x40 scopes, and they were actually quite nice. ......


The 4x40 Nikon Monarch has been a great scope for me. I've sold a few rifles and moved several over to dialers resulting in a Conquest 4x and Monarch 4x that are sitting unused. Need to raise a little $ for a Sig Cross this summer so I may list them soon if anyone is interested.

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I've ownd fixed 4's and 6's over the years and have found there is nothing they could do that a 1-4 or 1.5-6 couldn't do better.


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It's still pretty easy to scare up an old Lyman all american perma-center 4X and they were and are rather good scopes.

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https://us.hawkeoptics.com/user/products/Hawke_Riflescope_Vantage_4x32.jpg

Welcome.

Of course, the world is rich with 1-6x24s made for ARs. But I ran the 1.5 x 5 x 24 VXIII o my .270 for decades, killing machine it is.


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