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Maybe I'm behind the times, but when did you ever have to fill out a 4473 to purchase a muzzleloader???

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Originally Posted by LNF150
Maybe I'm behind the times, but when did you ever have to fill out a 4473 to purchase a muzzleloader???


The first Savage 10ML required one because, with a barrel swap, it became a cartridge rifle. Same with a non-FX Encore.


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Thank you for the info tmitch.

I'm still killing deer with a .54 cal sidelock. Always figured since it did it's job so well there was no need for an inline.

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Originally Posted by MILES58
That has to be one of the dumbest ideas I have seen in one hell of a while!

Pushing $5.00/shot is going to doom it all by itself. Single sourced EVERYTHING??? Best way I know of to guarantee even higher prices and difficulty finding what you need to make it go bang. Pre-determined charges will not allow for adjustment for accuracy.

The advertising claims are absurd.

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For years in Illinois

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The only thing it changes is the amount of money in your wallet. It wont be legal in states that dont allow pellets or smokeless. You can bet your ass some poor idiot will reload one of them sticks.

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Already saw a YouTube video on a homemade version of this, stepped chamber and all, using a shotshell, IIRC. Like I said, use what you want, but I'd personally be leery of investing in a new-tech toy that might go , along with its ammo, if it falls flat in the market, for whatever reason(s).


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Remington 700 EtronX anybody?


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Shirley you jest?


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Yep, another innovation looking for a niche. IMO: This one will go the way of the electrically fired CVA.

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