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Originally Posted by Calvin
History is still taught here in Alaska.


All meetings here in Alaska are subject to the open meetings act. Including the school board meetings and the curriculum meetings. They have to be posted before each meeting.

Nothing is in secret. Everything goes through a process. If you don’t know what it is, you haven’t been paying attention

The kids also get a semester of AK (Alaska) history.


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Homeschool- - - - - -then you can look into the mirror and bitch at the teacher when your kids are too ignorant to get into college or make a living when it's time for them to step out into the real world and sink or swim on their own merits! Crying a river about the failure of the education system is sort of like bitching about the farmer with your mouth full!

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Tyrone, you can also check their homework and spend quality time with the kids doing just that.
That worked in kindergarten and up to maybe 2nd grade, but since then almost all the homework has been online. Unless they have difficulty with something, you never see it, you have no idea what they are doing.


You have to take time to take time. This ain’t complicated to do.

But I get your point and it’s a valid one .


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What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Yeah, mom and dad both working full time to make ends meet allows sooo much time for homeschooling.


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They teach them how to get on welfare, get free food, where to go to get abortions, how to print a nice sign to stand on the side of the road for money begging.

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Originally Posted by hanco
They teach them how to get on welfare, get free food, where to go to get abortions, how to print a nice sign to stand on the side of the road for money begging.



You talking about black churches ?


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

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I can't say what is taught here in PA. but it can't be very much. Every time a snowflake falls to the ground, the wind blows more than 5mph or the temp drops below 32 degrees they cancel, delay or let out early school.



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Our school system has an advanced placement program for those that exhibit some drive and intellect. Those kids take some tough stuff requiring a ton of reading and thought. The remaining balance pretty much skate through and are oblivious to life away from their phones.

My own son was having some attitude issues for his Jr and Sr years, so I got involved in his homework and actually sat through a few days of classes. Had I been in charge, he would have been held back for at least a year. I doubt very few of the average students today, could score 50% on the Kansas 1895 8th grade exam that gets passed around on the web.

A small community here, and I get nothing but frustration from teachers when it comes to discipline now days. Seems even 3rd and 4th graders are fine with getting into adult's faces.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Evidently this is the most closely guarded secret in America today. In my county in Florida, the curriculum and course materials, textbooks and such, are not easily, or possibly not available at all online. Not at the State level either.
This morning, I have spoken to 4 different folks at the county level. Now I am waiting for. Supervisor to return my call. This search started over a week ago.
We often wonder why today’s kids are so susceptible so communism, and why they don’t seem to have any idea of real American history. At this point, I posit that it is because of what they are being exposed to in taxpayer funded government schools.



I found this but I dunno if its official State of Florida....

https://www.cpalms.org/Public/PreviewCourse/Preview/4495

But here's a bottom line that can be checked. Florida has a History End of Course (EOC) exam that a kid has to pass to get credit. If you scroll down to the review sessions you'll see a reflection of the coursse content.

https://www.flvs.net/student-resources/flex/eoc/us-history


Texas "TEKS" (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) are less hi tech but more straightforward....

http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/rules/tac/chapter113/ch113c.html

I dunno if this answers your question. Took five minutes, but I know where to look.





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In my district I teach 8th Grade History, we are supposed to cover 1787 the Constitution up to the Progressives 1890's to 1900. I start with the French and Indian War to lay the ground work for the Tax Acts and the Intolerable Acts , the Quartering Act, etc. Briefly touch on the Revolution and then go into the Articles of Confederation, then the Constitution. IF get to the Wild West after the Civil War(War of Northern Aggression or the Celebration of Northern Industrial Might) and Reconstruction I am lucky. I cover the Bill of Rights extensively as do I the "theory of state's rights." Matter of fact we are discussing John Brown now.


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I don't know what they teach about American History these days but when I took it in 1960 we just memorized dates, very boring. I learned more about our history in Civics class.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
History is still taught here in Alaska.


All meetings here in Alaska are subject to the open meetings act. Including the school board meetings and the curriculum meetings. They have to be posted before each meeting.

Nothing is in secret. Everything goes through a process. If you don’t know what it is, you haven’t been paying attention


Its transparent here too. The curriculum, everything. How a teacher interprets that curriculum can be different, but all my assignments and grades are posted in real time.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Yeah, mom and dad both working full time to make ends meet allows sooo much time for homeschooling.


Whatever happened to the idea of husband and wife holding off on having children until they have the means (finances and time) to rear them properly?

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Originally Posted by mathman
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Yeah, mom and dad both working full time to make ends meet allows sooo much time for homeschooling.


Whatever happened to the idea of husband and wife holding off on having children until they have the means (finances and time) to rear them properly?
I don't know, but there's a schitt ton of them out there.


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The schools are all teaching about the same thing. Yes, I believe it is mostly liberal, progressive, socialistic [bleep].

The parents are responsible for getting their kids a real education. We have two sons, age 11 and 12. We spend time each night talking about school and going over homework.

I spent this past weekend sleeping on the ground with 30 other parents and 65 scouts. Yes, an education is more than what is taught in school and parents really matter.

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In my opinion the best way to help your school district be more conservative is to get on the school board and have influence when the board hires the next superintendent. You also get to vote on policy with is very important.

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commie common core curriculum, desperately trying to rid the state of it, this school does pray at games, stands for the pledge and DOES attend classes on martin luther [race baiter] king day!


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Tyrone, you can also check their homework and spend quality time with the kids doing just that.
That worked in kindergarten and up to maybe 2nd grade, but since then almost all the homework has been online. Unless they have difficulty with something, you never see it, you have no idea what they are doing.

Ever hear of a 2'nd chair at the computer desk. Or a laptop on the dining room table with two chairs?


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Originally Posted by mathman
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Yeah, mom and dad both working full time to make ends meet allows sooo much time for homeschooling.


Whatever happened to the idea of husband and wife holding off on having children until they have the means (finances and time) to rear them properly?


I know a bunch of folks like that, most of them are childless couples now because they waited too late. I'm 51 and of myself and my three best friends with their wives there's one child between us all. All of us are successful professionals because we did it "right", we got an education and paid our own way through life without any help. Meanwhile walk into Walmart and see how many 22 year old unwed mothers are walking around with five kids in tow, 2" long fake nails and swipe an EBT card at the checkout. Those children are the future of the country, not the children of the couples that waited until they had the means to rear them properly. Those children of welfare mothers are the ones that are going to be making the critical decisions regarding the direction our country takes. Demographics is destiny and the ideal married couple that only has children when they can afford it is getting outbred five to one by those that don't care about things like that.

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