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The only time I have been involved with an aggressive pitbull was in North Carolina when I found two of them working at killing a foxhound bitch. When the male noticed me, he charged out with a roar. I had no weapon of any kind so I just slapped him in the face with my hat. He backed off and the female, which was right behind him, flipped over on her back in a submisive posture. The male circled but, by now, I had a stout club in my hands and figured to swat him with that. I rescued the foxhound but she was too badly injured and succumbed later that night.
Our own 1/2 pit was a fine dog in all respects but had his idiosyncracies. If he was in his crate, he would become very agitated if anyone other than a family member approached the crate. Also, he was prefectly friendly when we were home but fiercely protective of the house if we were not. He hated rottweilers from the time he was a pup and saw his first one. He was afraid of nothing alive but was frightened by a child's toy which made a clicking sound. He didn't hesitate to charge a cougar which was in the corral but would sleep with our housecat. He killed badgers but walked around with our beagle pup hanging off his face. After the first couple of years, the coyotes seldom howled anywhere near our place. He never killed them but did chew them up pretty bad.
It seems, as with all dogs, there are individuals and the owners are more of a problem than the dog. A pitbull which viciously attacks a person, without provocation, needs to be put down but the problem will still exist as long as the owner is still around and able to have dogs. GD

Do we know that these people didn't deserve to be mauled? Some people have it coming, and pits are just the right dogs for the task.

That would be the pits . . . . .

For my own part, I credit nature/genetics for 60-80% of what is behind human characteristics & behavior. Probably the same or even more so with dogs.

Thing is, nurture surely can hork things up in ways that are permanent and profound. Such as when a kiddo has super tall parents but is brought up during a time of mass-starvation or malnutrition. Growth is stunted and they are hat way all their life.

As for pit bulls (APPBT) I have been on this earth for some decades. As a kid and until adulthood, I never heard much about APBT attacks. I was around them in rural settings where they were working hog dogs and family pets. Came across a few in urban settings. Biggest was about 75lbs of rangy, agile dog. Could bound through the woods like a deer. Not particularly smart, but smarter than most scent hounds I have known(1). Generally happy, friendly dogs around people with a strong prey drive.

Fast forward another decade and it seems every thugaboo in the ghetto has a pit bull and some have some sort of monster hybrid APBT/molossus creature. Those are HUGE effing beasts. NONE of them (straight APBT or hybrid monster) socialized(2).

So, we have a dog breed that starts out as a bulldog (tenacious & tough) + terrier (high prey drive) hybrid that gets much more common, is raised poorly, and in some cases crossed with some molossus breeds for freakish size.

Yeah, no wonder APBT bite frequency goes through the roof. Any item that is powerful or potentially dangerous that becomes common in the 'hood will rise in irresponsible use and/or tragic accidents. Guns, dog breeds, pharmaceuticals, whatever. Not sure I want to limit MY liberty because obsolete farm equipment can't handle the responsibility.

And yes, I have had interactions aplenty with APBT & APBT hybrids in recent years. You bet I take care around them in the city. Still, in rural parts where they use them as hog dogs, they are still much the same as they used to be.

Oh, and APBT are not the most powerful of catch dogs I have observed in action. That distinction goes to a molossus breed known as dogo argentino. They not only catch the hog, they begin to dismember it in front of you if you are slothful. Better be quick with the knife to dispatch the hog once they got hold of it.



(1) Love long-eared scent hounds, but man can they be thick.

(2) Here's a clue: if you walk it using a thick chain and have to grab it up to keep it from biting passers-by, it is not socialized and needs to be put down.

I think you're that person.

I don't believe the baby, 5 year old, or 71 year old lady were.

Interesting.

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They keep lions and tigers in zoo's for that same reason.

Too bad they cant learn who to attack.

Never owned one, but my dad talked of one in his youth. Reportedly, very bright, but it killed anything that challenged it. Don't know of that was exaggeration or not.

The world is chock full of kids and old people aggravating pits into attacking, right? They prefer, of course, aggravating pits but not so much other breeds, right?

That dog dindu nuffin!

I see yellow jersey minset law breaking spandex/coffee club cyclists each day- that have it coming.

5 yr old kids not so much.

I dont believe anyone deserves to be mauled by a dog . This is.... Perhaps the weirdest response I've read on this forum .

I have no interest in owning a dog that could kill, maim or cripple me. Dogs operate by dog rules, we don’t always like the result.

Yet another trained response...yeah right that it

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typical dumbass. Pitbull owners. "Oh please let go of the dog". That fat worthless pos trying to help too

Should be a possible answer on a psychiatric exam.

I worked for a local health department for 19.5 years and we investigated all animal bites because they were potential rabies exposures. Of the dogs I saw I would say the breed who bit the most were German Shepherds, They almost never bit their owner usually someone visiting the family. With that said the only fatal bite which I had to investigate involved a pit bull and his owner. Apparently the pit bull got into a fight with a Jack Russell which was also in the house and the owner tried to stop it. The Jack Russell and the owner died as a result. From what I could see from different breeds the pit bull was no more likely to bite, but when it did the results were not good. They are perfectly built for fighting.

The only other breed I saw who ended up in trouble was a Brazilian Mastiff who was being trained with a shock collar. Apparently he figured out who was shocking him and mauled his owner's face. It did not kill the owner, but the dog was removed and taken to the animal shelter. The animal shelter was trying to keep him from being euthanized. The dog was huge, but from what I could see very docile considering what had happened. My personal opinion was he got pushed too far and acted out. The problem is when you are that big and strong bad things happen.

The entire time I was doing that job, I only got bit once and it was from a poodle. Never trust any breed of dog!

Neighbor let's her pit run free. One bit our other neighbor on the elbow when she was jogging. Broke skin but didn't require stitches. She still lets them run. One came after me on my 4 wheeler one day so I rode home and grabbed my LCRx. I went back down the same road but didn't see it again.

I don't like having them run free when I have small kids. I called her and let her know but she acted like her dogs would never do that. The neighbor that got bit would not report it to the police because they weed trying "to be nice." The dogs would be wise not to come on my property.

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