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I hate Pinterest. They ruined the google image search. Yep. That and trying to find a Meme during a web search. š”
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Powers Custom, out of either KC or Independence MO, built some of those for prairie dog shooters, back in the late '90s or thereabouts. There was at least one feature article about them in one gun magazine and I think the Varmint Hunter's Association magazine, too. It wasn't a new idea, it had been ripped off from the old water-cooled machineguns of WWI and WWII, they had to have a pressure manifold and pump system to pump the water from coolers thru the water jackets to keep the pressure the same for every shot, and they were complicated systems.
I thought it was kinda neat, but the price for a system, and the smithing for the water-jacketed barrel and assorted equipment was pretty pricey. I thought it was more practical to just buy a couple more rifles and swap them out when one got hot. I was doing a lot of PDoggin' back then, and read about it with a lot of interest, but no money in the bank for such things. Whatās āthat kind of moneyā? I think I bought it right. Danged if I know, it was over 20 years ago! IIIRC, the work alone was around $2500, but I could very, very easily be mistaken about that, on the low end. Still, it was 20 odd years ago, and again, recall might be sketchy, it was made for the guys who use trailers with shooting tables mounted on them, and parked either in prairie dog fields or for the Northern California/Oregon/Nevada ground squirrels. They would pull into a field, square up the trailer, fill the coolers with cold water (and more ice, if needed, to keep the water cool) and have at it. I was real jealous of their shooting opportunities, it sure sounded fun.
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PM Butch Lambert on here. He hangs out at BR Central and is probably the best source on this site.
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With the one lead in NC Iād try Ray Bowman at Precision Rifle in Mebane NC. If he didnāt build it he may know who did. There are many good smiths in that state but many are connected so Iām thinking he might be able to help.
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Sometime, I think20 or 30 years ago, someone (95% sure Layne Simpson) did an article in Handloader or Rifle about water cooled varmint rifles. IIRC, it seemed like a God-awful amount of money at the time.
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Sometime, I think20 or 30 years ago, someone (95% sure Layne Simpson) did an article in Handloader or Rifle about water cooled varmint rifles. IIRC, it seemed like a God-awful amount of money at the time. I thought it might have been "Guns" Magazine, but I sure wouldn't want to fight over it. I also wouldn't want to bet on my memory from back then. You could very well be right.
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I'll ask Ron Power the next time I see him.
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Powers Custom, out of either KC or Independence MO, built some of those for prairie dog shooters, back in the late '90s or thereabouts. There was at least one feature article about them in one gun magazine and I think the Varmint Hunter's Association magazine, too. It wasn't a new idea, it had been ripped off from the old water-cooled machineguns of WWI and WWII, they had to have a pressure manifold and pump system to pump the water from coolers thru the water jackets to keep the pressure the same for every shot, and they were complicated systems.
I thought it was kinda neat, but the price for a system, and the smithing for the water-jacketed barrel and assorted equipment was pretty pricey. I thought it was more practical to just buy a couple more rifles and swap them out when one got hot. I was doing a lot of PDoggin' back then, and read about it with a lot of interest, but no money in the bank for such things. Whatās āthat kind of moneyā? I think I bought it right. Danged if I know, it was over 20 years ago! IIIRC, the work alone was around $2500, but I could very, very easily be mistaken about that, on the low end. Still, it was 20 odd years ago, and again, recall might be sketchy, it was made for the guys who use trailers with shooting tables mounted on them, and parked either in prairie dog fields or for the Northern California/Oregon/Nevada ground squirrels. They would pull into a field, square up the trailer, fill the coolers with cold water (and more ice, if needed, to keep the water cool) and have at it. I was real jealous of their shooting opportunities, it sure sounded fun. Does sound fun... apparently I bought it right.
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PM Butch Lambert on here. He hangs out at BR Central and is probably the best source on this site. Iāll do that thank you.
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With the one lead in NC Iād try Ray Bowman at Precision Rifle in Mebane NC. If he didnāt build it he may know who did. There are many good smiths in that state but many are connected so Iām thinking he might be able to help. Iāll do that Monday. Thank you.
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I'll ask Ron Power the next time I see him. That would be great. Apparently he sold his company in MO
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PM Butch Lambert on here. He hangs out at BR Central and is probably the best source on this site. Whatās his handle?
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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kinda how my still works.
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I remember seeing some of those rifles about 30 years ago. If I remember correctly, they were not intended to be shot while connected to the water source. It was simply a method of more quickly cooling the barrel in between strings of shots in the dog town.
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Winchester M70 receiver..
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It still amazes me the creativity of some people.
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yes, pretty cool barrel
pun if needed
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