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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A lot of people must be clamoring to get here. It's rated as the fastest growing state in the union right now, mostly in the Boise area. Check housing prices in Ada and Canyon counties. They've gone totally nuts. People are buying houses 50 miles away and commuting because they can't afford Boise.


Good luck with all the Californian's clamoring to get there.

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Extend that southern border of Idaho into Nevada as far south as Ely.


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Originally Posted by lvmiker
Extend that southern border of Idaho into Nevada as far south as Ely.


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You'd have to jog it a bit to exclude Reno.


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I gotta go torch a doob and think about it man.


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Democraps looking to take over another state, are invading Idaho. Just like they did Oregon and Washington. Look out Idaho!

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I would be for it.

Something has got to give here in Northern California.

I love Oregon and Washington but politics have ruined me as I get older.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Just like what the Jefferson Staters have been fighting since 1947. Central and southern California would be financially devastated by the chokehold of agricultural water that comes from Jefferson State. It would make the destruction of Owens Valley by Los Angeles water authority look like a church picnic. Water war on a grand scale. There is a legal process to statehood, but justice has been denied. The current states won't allow it, the Feds won't allow it...but we can't just quit fighting. Most of our legal actions were struck down in the 9th circuit court of appeals, maybe Trump can change the bias of the court.

I think SoCal gets more water form the Eastern Sierra and the Colorado River doesn't it?


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Just like what the Jefferson Staters have been fighting since 1947. Central and southern California would be financially devastated by the chokehold of agricultural water that comes from Jefferson State. It would make the destruction of Owens Valley by Los Angeles water authority look like a church picnic. Water war on a grand scale. There is a legal process to statehood, but justice has been denied. The current states won't allow it, the Feds won't allow it...but we can't just quit fighting. Most of our legal actions were struck down in the 9th circuit court of appeals, maybe Trump can change the bias of the court.

I think SoCal gets more water form the Eastern Sierra and the Colorado River doesn't it?


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Originally Posted by fester
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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Just like what the Jefferson Staters have been fighting since 1947. Central and southern California would be financially devastated by the chokehold of agricultural water that comes from Jefferson State. It would make the destruction of Owens Valley by Los Angeles water authority look like a church picnic. Water war on a grand scale. There is a legal process to statehood, but justice has been denied. The current states won't allow it, the Feds won't allow it...but we can't just quit fighting. Most of our legal actions were struck down in the 9th circuit court of appeals, maybe Trump can change the bias of the court.

I think SoCal gets more water form the Eastern Sierra and the Colorado River doesn't it?


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You're not wrong in that it gets NorCal water. Not sure if it's more or less than the LA Water System or the Colorado Aqueduct though:

https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/california-aqueduct

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The California Aqueduct, a critical part of the State Water Project, carries water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Deltato the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California.



A lot of the NorCal water, including water that is suppose to flow down the Trinity River to the Pacific by way of the Klamath, goes to support farming in the Central Valley. It's always a good thing to move water (and organisms?) from one watershed to a completely different one, right?

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Originally Posted by fester
I would be for it.

Something has got to give here in Northern California.

I love Oregon and Washington but politics have ruined me as I get older.



fester,

Unfortunately for us, nothing is likely to give here in NorCal............any more than it has in Northern NY, parts of NJ, Western MA, and to some extent PA.


Rural areas just have less voice, the nature of the beast as it is.

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I would be for it.

Something has got to give here in Northern California.

I love Oregon and Washington but politics have ruined me as I get older.



fester,

Unfortunately for us, nothing is likely to give here in NorCal............any more than it has in Northern NY, parts of NJ, Western MA, and to some extent PA.


Rural areas just have less voice, the nature of the beast as it is.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A lot of people must be clamoring to get here. It's rated as the fastest growing state in the union right now, mostly in the Boise area. Check housing prices in Ada and Canyon counties. They've gone totally nuts. People are buying houses 50 miles away and commuting because they can't afford Boise.


It's great if you are selling...Houses that sold for $130K 5 years ago are going for $275k now...Ours will be hitting the market March 15...

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by fester
Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Just like what the Jefferson Staters have been fighting since 1947. Central and southern California would be financially devastated by the chokehold of agricultural water that comes from Jefferson State. It would make the destruction of Owens Valley by Los Angeles water authority look like a church picnic. Water war on a grand scale. There is a legal process to statehood, but justice has been denied. The current states won't allow it, the Feds won't allow it...but we can't just quit fighting. Most of our legal actions were struck down in the 9th circuit court of appeals, maybe Trump can change the bias of the court.

I think SoCal gets more water form the Eastern Sierra and the Colorado River doesn't it?


The delta....
I may be wrong


You're not wrong in that it gets NorCal water. Not sure if it's more or less than the LA Water System or the Colorado Aqueduct though:

https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/california-aqueduct

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The California Aqueduct, a critical part of the State Water Project, carries water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Deltato the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California.



A lot of the NorCal water, including water that is suppose to flow down the Trinity River to the Pacific by way of the Klamath, goes to support farming in the Central Valley. It's always a good thing to move water (and organisms?) from one watershed to a completely different one, right?

Geno


I was in a training class last week and a guy was in charge of sending water to LA(Cali)
He told me that if it wasn’t for them pulling river water the bay would turn into a fresh water lake
and if they didn’t the rivers would be brackish.......

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Rock Chuck: I wish those folks well in the attempt at meaningful. pro-America, pro-capitalist societies/state!
But alas it ain't never gonna happen - the demonrats know this would be the death knell of their pro-communist, pro-socialsist, anti-American, kalifornicationkopianing of the United States of America.
And the demonrats would obstruct and fight at every turn, to the end.
Again I wish those involved the best of luck.
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My 1st words in my OP were 'It'll never happen'. The people in Salem would never vote to give up all that tax money, seats in the house, and EC votes.


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If there was an increase in available representatives somehow, the left would support the breakup then immediately move to take over the new districts.


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Originally Posted by fester
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Originally Posted by fester
Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Just like what the Jefferson Staters have been fighting since 1947. Central and southern California would be financially devastated by the chokehold of agricultural water that comes from Jefferson State. It would make the destruction of Owens Valley by Los Angeles water authority look like a church picnic. Water war on a grand scale. There is a legal process to statehood, but justice has been denied. The current states won't allow it, the Feds won't allow it...but we can't just quit fighting. Most of our legal actions were struck down in the 9th circuit court of appeals, maybe Trump can change the bias of the court.

I think SoCal gets more water form the Eastern Sierra and the Colorado River doesn't it?


The delta....
I may be wrong


You're not wrong in that it gets NorCal water. Not sure if it's more or less than the LA Water System or the Colorado Aqueduct though:

https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/california-aqueduct

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The California Aqueduct, a critical part of the State Water Project, carries water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Deltato the San Joaquin Valley and Southern California.



A lot of the NorCal water, including water that is suppose to flow down the Trinity River to the Pacific by way of the Klamath, goes to support farming in the Central Valley. It's always a good thing to move water (and organisms?) from one watershed to a completely different one, right?

Geno


I was in a training class last week and a guy was in charge of sending water to LA(Cali)
He told me that if it wasn’t for them pulling river water the bay would turn into a fresh water lake
and if they didn’t the rivers would be brackish..
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Well, that's an interesting take on things, but in a way he's "right", sort of. It's the way it was before they started sending Sacramento and San Joaquin water south. The Bay/Delta was fresher, by a little, but the lower rivers were actually "fresher" too and less brackish as there was more water going down them. And more salmon going up them too!

And it's had quite an effect on certain species there too. Oh well, Angelinos, and San Diegans need water too. And we all like lettuce, grapes, oranges, and the Chinese and us like almonds.................a lot!

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Dang, I hope if this happens that Boise doesn't become a liberal chit hole haven....... laugh


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Boise is already pretty liberal...

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Originally Posted by eric1186
Boise is already pretty liberal...
Ada County (Boise) was 48% for Trump last election, 39% Clinton. There were some blue precincts but overall they're still red. It's getting more liberal all the time but it's not even close to Potland or Seattle.


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