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Just turned it on. The previews looked good, but they alway do, even if the end product sucks. Kinda misrepresented the incident at Jumonville Glenn. We’ll see. 7mm
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Yep, they missed an opportunity to discuss the controversy that exists today as to who fired first, at Jumonville Glen. Both sides were likely war parties, looking for a fight. History Channel also could have filmed the incident at the true location, as they did at Fort Necessity. I thought they did a pretty good job at depicting the battle at Fort Necessity.
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For the average person, one who’s not a history nerd, I’d say it’s a pretty decent portrayal. They’ve simplified a few of the things, but it’s been several years since I’ve read up on our revolution, so I can’t pick out anything really glaring. I think they might have done a little better at casting, but again, most people who aren’t nerds like me have no idea what Henry Knox or other historic figures look like. 7mm
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Guest Negroes have already bashed him, for being a slave owner.
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A lot of people owned slaves back then. Wasn’t right, but nothing we can do now.
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Watched Sundays episode yesterday and last night's today...enjoying it so far. Never put stock into who's casted to play the role, who cares. It's the history that matters. It's all interesting, no matter how many times I've heard it, learned it, or read it.
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I tried this last night and got nowhere, so I am going to give it another go - the guy portraying Washington looks more like Ichabod Crane.
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Why on God's green earth with the thousands of history scholars in this country, did they pick Bubba Clinton to defile Washington's documentary? Then they pick Colin Powell , the back stabber, to top it off. I'm trying to watch it, but I get tired of hitting mute and turning my head away. I wonder if Bubba ever discussed the greatness of Washington with Jeffry Epstein while flying to Pedo Island?
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I tried this last night and got nowhere, so I am going to give it another go - the guy portraying Washington looks more like Ichabod Crane. I thought it was Prince Charles
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I thought it was a pretty good series. Washington was an amazing leader.
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Beyond having a bunch of candy assess who couldnt make it through what he ate for breakfast, let alone a week of his life, I thought it was about the best the modern day could offer the greatest U.S. President, ever.
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Actually, I think it was much better than I’ve come to expect from THC the last few years. Some of the historians seem hung up on the fact that he owned slaves. I’m white, and I’m somewhat of a historian myself, so I can understand it being the context of the times. From my reading, I think Washington realized it was wrong, but like most planters, he also knew he couldn’t financially afford to free himself of the stain. Washington was very concerned about how History would view his legacy. Martha burned all their correspondence at his dying request. He was private and shy, a good writer but not a public speaker. I was surprised by Bubba Clinton being on there. If he read history of some of the founders, he sure didn’t learn much about integrity! Philbrick and Ellis I’m familiar with and have a favorable opinion. Others I’m not, so I won’t comment further. They did simplify the Jumonville thing, and Washington’ Final role in the final taking of Ft Duquesne. He was an adviser on the Forbes expedition, but he insisted (incorrectly IMHO) that Forbes follow Braddock’s road. The road through PA, and the fort in Ligonier were invaluable in driving the French out of western PA. I’m from western PA and Ive studied this, so... I’ve often wondered at his stubborn refusal to evacuate New York during the war, and his passion to retake it after the French fleet came over. Even an amateur like me can understand that the city was untenable without a navy to control the sea and the river around it. Arnold’s betrayal was covered pretty well. I personally think Peggy was the instigator and the drive behind Arnold’s treason. Washington would’ve loved to get him alive. He actually sent men to enlist in Arnold’s British unit for the purpose of kidnapping him and bringing him to trial! I wouldn’t have ruled out assassination, but Washington did. I’m looking forward to reading Philbrick’s book about this, Valiant Ambition. Washington was a diest, he believed in A Christian God but belonged to no particular religion. He had a belief that God watched over him physically and That “The hand of Providence” saved his army several times in the revolution. They left out this, and overlooked the words “so help me God” when he took the oath as president. Take that as you will. Washington’s ability to hold an army together, despite congress’ refusal to help, and his talent for getting others to cooperate with him, in spite of their personal feelings towards him, was, I think, his greatest contribution to our nation. Both Gates and Charles Lee, probably a couple others, thought they’d make better leaders and actually plotted against him. He had his shortcomings. We all do as humans. But Washington should e remembered as the patriot and the leader he was. I think they did pretty well with it. Looking forward to Grant. Another man I admire. 7mm
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Yep. The series on Grant should be interesting. I’d like to see History Channel keep rolling these out. There are soooo many great people and stories for them to highlight. I’ve seen enough of American Pickers for a while.
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I'm waiting on them to try to say the Founding Fathers were planted here by Ancient Aliens.
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Finally the History Channel getting back to history instead of aliens, junk buyers, Canadian island money pits, & pawn shops.
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I’ve pretty much given up on THC, what with scripted reality shows and hoaxes like ancient aliens and project blue book! History is what you have proven, not some halfazzed theory based on what may be real or maybe not. Being a Christian, I also think they get off on blaming some scriptural history on space men rather then God Himself. Wifey and I do watch the Oak island show, but according to the book that came out last year, Marty Lagina, who is one of the bosses and main money investors the project, suspects that one or more of the metal objects they found found were planted by the tv show! He said if he finds out it’s true, he will pull the plug on tv immediately! When we first got cable in the 80s, THC always had pretty good programming. I watched an awful lot about American history, modern marvels and most of the biographies of famous people. Being a History buff, I was on cloud nine. Somewhere along the line, they decided scripted “reality” shows like pawn stars was easier and cheaper than actually doing research! Someone should be ashamed. I hope they start doing history again, I got no interest in swords or flying saucers. And Hitler died in the bunker! Even the damn Russians knew that! Washington was much better than I expected. As I said, if you’re not into reading history, the little liberties taken for simplicity’s sake and time wise are no big deal. As a historian, I admit I was looking for inaccuracies and political correctness. Other than the slavery stuff by a few of the folks interviewed, I was pleasantly surprised. 7mm
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Why on God's green earth with the thousands of history scholars in this country, did they pick Bubba Clinton to defile Washington's documentary? Then they pick Colin Powell , the back stabber, to top it off. I'm trying to watch it, but I get tired of hitting mute and turning my head away. I wonder if Bubba ever discussed the greatness of Washington with Jeffry Epstein while flying to Pedo Island? I’ve only watched the first episode so far, I’m thinking it could be more of a hit job against Washington and an attempt to rewrite history. We'll see.
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Pawn Stars will give you more accurate history.
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... History is what you have proven, not some halfazzed theory based on what may be real or maybe not.... 7mm Which sets it apart from science.
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