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I have been told that it is no longer offered. If true, am wondering why, after all the glowing print reviews and in videos online.

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Lack of actual sales....?

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Cash Flow, Everybody WANTS one but not many BUYING one.

Mossberg 100 series (Patriot) are great guns - very undervalued.


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I cant blame anyone for not buying it. They're too light. I bought the Patriot in .300 Win mag and it was less than 7 lbs. It was hateful to shoot and gave me headaches.

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Think about this....if you are in the position to hunt game that requires a 375 H&H, are you really going to carry a Mossberg?

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I picked up a Laminate Stainless for my son for his high school graduation. It is a good shooter and he loves it but I do not like shooting it. Feels like getting hit in the face with a boat paddle full swing every shot. He shoots it over and over no problem. It was a good pick for $329.


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Originally Posted by 405wcf
Think about this....if you are in the position to hunt game that requires a 375 H&H, are you really going to carry a Mossberg?


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Not everybody can afford a $3000.00 rifle with a $1500.00 scope. MOA is MOA no matter what shoots it.

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Originally Posted by 405wcf
Think about this....if you are in the position to hunt game that requires a 375 H&H, are you really going to carry a Mossberg?

That's true, but most of the game that gets hunted with a 375 here in N/A really doesn't need a 375.

We carry it because we want to not because we need to. BTDT.

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Ron Spomers buddy took a Brown Bear with his Mossberg Patriot in .338 WM. So there are people who will buy these type rifles for serious hunts.

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Mike

Did you happen to weigh your 300 with scope, sling & ammo ?

I know you said it was -7lbs.

I'm really NOT in the market but I'm interested in its Dressed Hunting Weight.

I'm PERFECTLY satisfied with my T 3X 7 RM at 7 lbs, 9 oz.


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Originally Posted by jwall
Mike

Did you happen to weigh your 300 with scope, sling & ammo ?

I know you said it was -7lbs.

I'm really NOT in the market but I'm interested in its Dressed Hunting Weight.

I'm PERFECTLY satisfied with my T 3X 7 RM at 7 lbs, 9 oz.


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It was 7.5 pounds with a 4X scope. I put a variable on it then which brought it closer to 8# but it was still too light for a .300 Win.

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Lets look at the lineage of the rifle. They started life as the Raptor rifle company back in the 1990's. They were considered pure junk and the company quickly folded. Charter Arms bought the rights to produce the rifle for a few years and once again they were considered a joke. Charter Arms stopped making them and a few years later Mossberg buys the rights to produce the same rifle, they change the name and it is suddenly a quality rifle? I think not.

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/46-bo...mera-land/11108-raptor-arms-comapny.html

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/43106

https://gunvalues.gundigest.com/raptor-arms-co/9956/raptor-bolt-action-rifle/

To be fair I've not shot any of the 3 versions, but have handled them in gun shops. I'd put them in the same class as the Remingtoin 710 or 770.

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I agree 100%. But there are a lot better options than the Mossberg selling for under $500 and I while the scopes I prefer are in the $400-$500 range, I'd not feel handicapped with a lot of $200 scopes


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I understand there may be more expensive rifles that shoot well, but if a Mossberg bolt rifle shoots just as well, then why is it junk? I've seen so-called "quality" rifles that took a lot of work to get to shoot MOA.....in fact I own one.

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For rifles in the 375 class I don't think its MOA accuracy that is the most desired quality. Fit, shoot ability, field accuracy and reliability are at least as important as on the bench accuracy fora 375. An inexpensive accurate rifle is great for shooting whitetails, but most things that folks are going to shoot with a 375 have a price tag in the thousands if not tens of thousands, even if you don't pay much to hunt them for most of us the opportunity comes only a few times in a lifetime.. In some cases there is a risk/safety concern as well. For that type of hunting Id rather start with a rifle model well thought of and then put my rifle through some good use to insure function. It doesn't take $3000 to do that, lots of good model 70's, Mausers, Rugers and more for only a few hundred more than the Mossberg.

Now if you just want a rifle to shoot your fillings and retinas loose on the cheap, well then a mossberg is just the thing.


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The version with the laminate stock seemed interesting, but all I’ve seen recently are the versions with the Tupperware stock.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
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Mike

Did you happen to weigh your 300 with scope, sling & ammo ?

I know you said it was -7lbs.

I'm really NOT in the market but I'm interested in its Dressed Hunting Weight.


It was 7.5 pounds with a 4X scope. I put a variable on it then which brought it closer to 8# but it was still too light for a .300 Win.


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Lack of actual sales....?


Mebbe so....


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Originally Posted by noKnees
For rifles in the 375 class I don't think its MOA accuracy that is the most desired quality. Fit, shoot ability, field accuracy and reliability are at least as important as on the bench accuracy fora 375. An inexpensive accurate rifle is great for shooting whitetails, but most things that folks are going to shoot with a 375 have a price tag in the thousands if not tens of thousands, even if you don't pay much to hunt them for most of us the opportunity comes only a few times in a lifetime.. In some cases there is a risk/safety concern as well. For that type of hunting Id rather start with a rifle model well thought of and then put my rifle through some good use to insure function. It doesn't take $3000 to do that, lots of good model 70's, Mausers, Rugers and more for only a few hundred more than the Mossberg.

Now if you just want a rifle to shoot your fillings and retinas loose on the cheap, well then a mossberg is just the thing.

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Originally Posted by JMR40
Lets look at the lineage of the rifle. They started life as the Raptor rifle company back in the 1990's. They were considered pure junk and the company quickly folded. Charter Arms bought the rights to produce the rifle for a few years and once again they were considered a joke. Charter Arms stopped making them and a few years later Mossberg buys the rights to produce the same rifle, they change the name and it is suddenly a quality rifle? I think not.

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/46-bo...mera-land/11108-raptor-arms-comapny.html

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/43106

https://gunvalues.gundigest.com/raptor-arms-co/9956/raptor-bolt-action-rifle/

To be fair I've not shot any of the 3 versions, but have handled them in gun shops. I'd put them in the same class as the Remingtoin 710 or 770.

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Not everybody can afford a $3000.00 rifle with a $1500.00 scope. MOA is MOA no matter what shoots it.


I agree 100%. But there are a lot better options than the Mossberg selling for under $500 and I while the scopes I prefer are in the $400-$500 range, I'd not feel handicapped with a lot of $200 scopes



You don't have a clue what a Patriot rifle is. Yet that never stops you. It never prevents you from showing your ass.

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